They lingered in front of my apartment for nearly an hour, pointing their pistols at my window and shouting in a very threatening manner. She said that there is a whole lot more to tell about the TSBD than what has been publishedthat the whole building should be suspected as more or less of a safe base to operate from that day in November 1963.[9]. This is the story of the Wilcott file. But in the light of the information in this essay, it seems interesting that it was Shelly and Truly who took the name of Oswald to the police. Mr. SAWYER - Do you distinguish between an agent and a paid informant or do you use those terms interchangeably? Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, does that mean you were able to check back only thirty days from the time that you were given this information? Mr. GOLDSMITH - I think we had better go over that one more time. From June of 1964 to about December of 1964, I was at Roseland. Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. And I will ask the question again, okay. [20] Before going up the stairs, Truly paused to tell Shelley to guard the stairs and elevators to make sure no one uses them.[21]. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you prepare such a list? Missing evidence could be attributed to the systematic destruction of anything contrary to the official version. For example, Joes father had to clear visitors with Roy Truly, the building manager, even though they were top executives from the company headquarters in Chicago. Mr. CORNWELL - Do you remember anything about it? Mr. DODD - When you were told all of this? Finally, under threats and intense harassment from Dallas Police, I was forced to flee Dallas in early 1975. Mr. WILCOTT - Jerry Fox was a Case Officer for his branch the Soviet Russia Branch, XXXXXXXXXX Station, who purchased information from the Soviets. Copyright 2016-2022 by kennedysandking.com All Rights Reserved. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. The incident involving two government agents asking new employees strange questions also occurred at this location. It was not until 1999 that I spoke to someone who could solve this apparent discrepancy. Enclosed is a copy of the response from G. Robert Blakey, Chief Counsel and Director of the Select Committee on Assassinations. Unable to add item to List. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct, sir. They constructed a new building in the northwest part of Dallas, which both companies shared. Mr. GOLDSMITH - When did that occur? Since the CIA has the capability of engineering car crashes to look like accidents, Harriss name should be added to the list of mysterious deaths, along with Warren Commission witness Lee Bowers, who died when his car ran off the road and ran into a freeway abutment. Mr. WILCOTT - Oh, no. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. In 1947, the year when the CIA was formed, the Dallas city directory lists William Shelley as a clerk for the Hugh Perry Book Depository (the old name for the Texas School Book Depository), and that he had a room at 515 Martinique Avenue. Kennedy Assassination Committee. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. I had been involved at one point with a group civil rights group, and they had investigated it and said that there was no wrongdoing on my part as far a this association with the civil rights group. His duties routinely brought him in contact with all station people, and in particular with operational agents. Mr. WILCOTT - I believe that Oswald was a double agent, was sent over to the Soviet Union to do intelligence work, that the defection was phoney and it was set up and that I believe that Marina Oswald was an agent that had been recruited sometime before and was waiting their in Tokyo for Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And are you saying then that you attempted to investigate this allegation? Mr. WILCOTT - I left the agency in April of 1966 for the Miami Station. The White House has announced that a trove of remaining records concerning the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy will not be released as planned, due to the COVID-19 pandemic . Give as a gift or purchase for a team or group. I have entered other webs, but this one is different because the spider leaves the web and stalks its preysometimes for many years. Mr. WILCOTT - The "need-to-know" principle was not all that we followed, and just about every one of the big projects that the agency was involved in, information leaked out, and we especially within the CIA knew about it, and someone would go to a party and have a little bit too much to drink and start saying things that they really shouldn't be saying to keep in mind what the "need-to-know" principle was. Do you believe that there was such a reference to Oswald? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I am sorry -- if Oswald was what? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, did I ask you to prepare a list indicating the dates that you were employed with the CIA and where you were stationed? Perhaps that is why I was so unprepared during that brief step into the looking glass.. The search for a solution to these riddles leads into the murky world of intrigue involving the FBI and CIA dirty work. Mr. WILCOTT - No, I am not saying that. Copyright 2016-2022 by kennedysandking.com All Rights Reserved. (Whereupon, at 12:55 p.m. the subcommittee recessed. December 30, 2005 in JFK Assassination Debate Share Followers 0 Posted December 30, 2005 I started to read through the HSCA testimony of James Wilcott on the History Matters website, and ran across this line on page 1: "Approximately April-June, 1963, Cryptonym for Oswald Project approx. And their security that there is in the Government didn't strike me as the kind of security that would keep me from getting attacked in some way, if someone wanted to do it. He followed environmental concerns and space exploration, and he enjoyed playing and watching sports. [12], A suggestion of smuggling activities within the TSBD comes in the form of boxes too large to be practical containers of books. Mr. PREYER - Well, that is the other question that I want to be very sure on. Two men, who identified themselves (with I.D.) I think we ought to state that the record shows that Mr. Sawyer is a member of the Kennedy Subcommitte Preyer. As mentioned, this woman, her husband, and young child disappeared within hours after my interview. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And who is Jerry Fox? Instead, he might have been one of the temporary musicians. Mr. WILCOTT - In 1963, I wasn't think that much about it. Learn more. I have some information concerning the assassination of President John Kennedy that I wish to submit for your scrutiny. Mr. WILCOTT - They were extremely vulgar and I don't think that I should give the full context of them. Unknown adversaries tormented Cason so much at his home on Druid Lane, that he was forced to relocate to another part of the city. The other one was the Lone Star School Book Depository, also located in the city of Dallas. He is loved and will always be remembered by his wife Sylvia Glaze, daughter Hailey Glaze, and sister, brothers, nieces, nephews and friends. There was talk about it going on at the station, and several months following at the station. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why did you go back to look at the book? WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978
Mrs. Bergin paid a great deal of money for that dress. [17] Joe Bergin, Sr. became a Texas Ranger in 1934, while serving concurrently as a school superintendent in Greenville, Texas. I was up to my neck before I realized it. This employee said that fellow employees were subjected to similar job interviews by government agents. Mr. DODD - And the information given you occurred sometime three months after the actual assassination. I . Mr. GOLDSMITH - Very generally now, what were your responsibilities as a finance employee with the agency? 49, No. Mr. SAWYER - What were they? Something went wrong. Mr. PREYER - I believe you have written an article about this, an unpublished article. Every station was divided up -- at least every class station was divided up into areas, where we would have a China, branch, Korea branch and XXXXXXXX branch and SR branch and SR satellite. We had accountings, or we had audits about every two years, and then then files that I kept the requests for advances, the details of the accountings that were done usually on a monthly basis by the XXXXX Station Branches, would be destroyed and then they would be -- and, in fact, I helped destroy them. [5] Examination of city directories and phone books in the Dallas Public Library shows that the book depository and the publishing companies did not have the 411 Elm Street address until 1963. He said he never saw it and said it was strange that I should possess a letter that was addressed to him. Butler said that the 411 Elm Street building was vacant for at least a year after his company moved out. The John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Espaol Fall 2017, Vol. Consider the following letter: Re: THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, While working as a journalist in Dallas late in 1974 and early 1975, I met and spoke with Lee Harvey Oswalds supervisor at the Texas School Book Depository in Dallas, Texas. A fellow researcher named Eric Lee Jordan visited the site and took pictures of it. Mr. WILCOTT - It was my Request for Advance Book. As far as that they actually said, they said they were having trouble with Oswald and that there was dissatisfaction with Oswald after he came back from the Soviet Union, and the would say things like "Well, you know this was the way to get rid of him -- to get him involved in this assassination thing and put the blame on Cuba as a pretext for another invasion or another attack against Cuba. Well, they would go through the files and take out anything that they thought was, say, indicative of how this flap occurred and change the files. Mr. WILCOTT - Particularly George Breen and XXXXXXXXX to a lesser extent. exactly for sure. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you know whether CIA Headquarters would have had either copies or originals of the cash disbursement files? The building is a large, one-story, concrete tilt-up, ideal for storing and moving huge quantities of material goods with forklifts and palettes. Anyone e1se? Two weeks later, he wrote back: Received your letter of July 7, 1999. The day after their disappearance, an estimated 20 Dallas policemen pulled up on front of my apartment. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I realize this is testimony 15 years after the fact. Mr. CORNWELL - What, if any, investigation did the Agency do with respect to that? Mr. GOLDSMITH - How did you become employed with the CIA? His desire to tell what he knew overcame his fear at least twice in his life. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Were any of these people on your list possible subjects who made references to Oswald being a CIA agent? One label read Texas School Book Depository, 500 Red Pony books by John Steinbeck, from Bobbs-Merrill. Last modified on Tuesday, 21 April 2020 03:08, The JFK Assassination Decoded: Two Reviews, Malcolm X's Family to File $100 Million Wrongful Death Lawsuit, Alleging Cover-up of His Murder, A Personal Encounter with the Warren Commission, JFK Medical Betrayal: Where The Evidence Lies by Russell Kent, The CIA and the Texas School Book Depository. The fact that he went and got his gun afterwards and then walked to the Texas Theater, perhaps to meet with someone, this suggests that he had some kind of agenda to fulfill. Then, as time Went on, I began to hear more things in that line. Mr. SAWYER - I noticed in somne of the information we are provided you say that following your leaving the CIA in 1967 or thereabouts, for a period of some three years or so, you were harassed by the CIA and the FBI and sabotaged, as I recollect it. In the work that Oliver Stone has done for his upcoming four-part documentary series on the JFK case, he uncovered information that Truly was not being paid directly through the Texas School Book Depository in 1963. Was there any dispute between you and the Agency? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Are you saying, then, that the cash disbursement files as a matter of routine would be periodically destoryed? Two retired Sexton officials told me that they moved out of the building on November 14, 1961, and that it remained vacant for at least a year. (At this time the school book depository had been relocated to a warehouse near the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35.). Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why has it been difficult? [11] Glaze misdated his letter as 12/12/74.. or C.I.A. Mr. WILCOTT - I think it must have been two or three omths (sic) after the assassination. [3] Telephone interviews of Campbell March 19, 1994; Jones, March 19, 1994; Williams, April 4, 1994; Garner, August 14, 1999. Shelleys claim that he was an intelligence officer would make sense if, as an ROTC lieutenant, he received intelligence training and perhaps even given some assignments in counterespionage. About a minute or two later, NBC news reporter Robert MacNeil came in through the front door, amazed to see three calm men. Mr. PREYER - And Miami, was that comparable in size? Mr. WILCOTT - That is true. It was first broadcast in 1978 on a public access television channel in Austin, Texas. Mr. CORNWELL - On any other occasion? Below is Mr. Glazes letter: House of Re. Mr. WILCOTT - Not the files, no. Assassinations, The subcommittee met at 10:20 a.m., pursuant to notice, in room 2344 of the Rayburn Office Building, the Honorable Richard Preyer (Chairman of the subcommittee), presiding. And do you know for a fact that he was given Russian courses? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Have you received a copy of the Committee's rules? This would put his visit in a period sometime during the summer or fall of 1963. Yet their new location was seven miles south of the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35 at 8301 Ambassador Row. Mr. WILCOTT - Especially after Kennedy's assassination, there was a great deal of very, very serious discontent with CIA, and the morale at the station had dropped considerably, and we heard some very, very bitter denunciations of CIA and the projects that they were undertaking. Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your knowledge, would any records at CIA Headquarters document that Oswald was a CIA agent? He also claimed he had disbursed cash funds for Oswald or The Oswald Project. After his interview and testimony he was claims he was harassed by the federal government and put under surveillance. Shelleys second claim was that he joined the CIA. Mr. CORNWELL - Perhaps I can rephrase the question and get more pointedly what I need without running into the problem that you see. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you bring your allegation to the attention of the Warren Commission? [26] FBI report of Oswald at the police station, Warren Report, p. 619. (2009), James W. Douglass explains this in detail, including the James Wilcott story. He was still living on Tatum Avenue at the time of the assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes sir. The largest typical box for books measured 12 x 14 x 18 inches, was made out of cardboard, and when filled with books weighed 55 pounds. I made my call and left. We appreciate your being here today, Mr. Wilcott. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, it was "We all know all about you" and signed "The Minutemen" or some very vulgar remarks and "We know all about you and signed "Minutemen." I spoke to groups in their homes and I spoke to groups in the Peace and Freedom Party and I was with the Peace and Freedom Party for several years. There was a person, Dave, who was a Deputy Chief. You mentioned the day after the assassination you talked to someone at the station about it. This book provides the first useful, in-depth analysis of the 120 phone calls by LBJ in the week following the assassination regarding such items as the Civil Rights Act, demands made by the military and similar political power plays. The significance of Glazes 1989 letter is that it provides a tantalizing piece of information which may indicate a covert side to the depository itself. My testimony included numerous meetings with a man named Bill Shelly (I am no longer certain of the correct spelling of his last name.) In late 1977, while working as a reporter for the Avalanche-Journal newspaper in Lubbock, Texas, I submitted written testimony to the United States House of Representatives newly-formed Select Committee on Assassinations. Mr. WILCOTT - Anything they had there would have -- sometimes they used as many as two or three different cryptonyms and they would have -- it all depended on how far they wanted to isolate it from the original source, from the original source as to where the project was run. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you remember the name of this Case Officer? Mr. DODD - Was he described as an agent to you or was he described as an operative or a paid informant? In the decade following his HSCA testimony, Jim Wilcott joined Vietnam veteran Brian Willson and the Nuremberg Actions community outside the Concord Naval Weapons Station in nonviolent resistance to weapons shipments to the CIA-sponsored Contra war in Nicaragua. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have any knowledge of any record of the CIA at the XXXXXXXX Station ever being destroyed out of the ordinary course of business, not as a matter of routine? He had keen interests in history and weather, and much of his writing related to these. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. CORNWELL - What routinely was done with such note pads? She & her husband left Dallas shortly afterward. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. He could not remember when this occurred, but it was before the assassination, but after extensive remodeling had been done on the third and fourth floors to add office suites for the publishing companies. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why not? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. I will be back in about 10 minutes. He passed away on November 15, 2019, after a fall causing brain injury. [4] FBI report of Roy Truly interview by Nat Pinkston, November 23, 1963, File No. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And you testified without any reservation? I don't know that anyone has ever looked into it. * 2017 JFK has a detailed guide to the massive JFK disclosures scheduled for October 2017. A puzzling aspect of Glazes 1989 letter was his reference to the book depository having moved to a location near the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35. at the best online prices at eBay! Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - When was that? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Wilcott lost a good job after leaving the CIA after his employer was told he would soon be under incitement when he wasnt and never was. From January of 1965 to about March of 1965, I was at Langley in the same area, in finance, policing accounts and auditing of special accounts, and I was promoted up to GS-9. They appear to be members of the security staff described by Joe Bergin, Jr. Glazes letters add a further detail that they were members of the FBI. Elzie Dean Glaze passed away on November 15, 2019. In 1992, Congress passed the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act that placed all remaining government documents pertaining to the assassination in a special category and . Jack Cason, the TSBD president, was a stocky, robust man before the assassination. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2023, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates, Learn more how customers reviews work on Amazon, includes free international wireless delivery via. [18], Less than a minute after the assassination, two Scott Foresman employees, Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles, who were on the fourth floor, ran down the stairs to the first floor. Three of the seven boxes appear in a photograph in his book. [5] Interviews of Ted Leon and Thomas H. Butler. Mr. CORNWELL - Did you -- at the time you made the decision to discuss outside of the Agency this matter, did you focus on the secrecy oath problem? Mr. CORNWELL - Do you have any knowledge, based upon your tenure XXXXXXX as to who would have trained Oswald in the Russian language if that occurred? Present: Representatives Preyer (presiding), Dodd and Sawyer. Mr. WILCOTT - With any degree of certainty, other than just speculation, I would say, six or seven with some degree of certainty. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Is the answer to that "yes"? Mr. WILCOTT - I do. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did this Case Officer tell you what Oswald's cryptonym was? With perhaps two CIA agents on the same premises, a careful scrutiny of the company they worked for is needed to understand what happened the day President Kennedy was killed. His information was that he had been unwitt. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Excuse me, please proceed very slowly. The book depository was in a seven-story, red brick building located at 411 Elm Street. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, they did not. Mr. SAWYER - Who told this to the community development, people? In November 1963, on the Friday before Thanksgiving, President Kennedy was riding in a Lincoln convertible rolling through the streets of Dallas. Mr. DODD - And your dissatisfaction with the Agency and with the course of American government preceded the actual assassination of President Kennedy? New security officers appeared. (Its address, I later learned, was 11310 Gemini Lane.) During a follow up call, he told me that the two musicians were not in contact with former members of the band and knew nothing of their whereabouts nor of their current activities. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people from the CIA did you speak to who speculated that Oswald was an agent? Mr. WILCOTT - I was able to but I never did. Mr. DODD - I am a little confused, I suppose,
There are photos of him getting into a police car along with Bonnie Ray Williams and Daniel Arce. Apart from the one officer who said to you that you had paid monies with respect to Oswald's cryptonym, what were the other six or seven persons' purported connection with Oswald and the Agency's relation to him. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Very much. With that, I pass along my rather tiny candle, plus my best wishes and encouragement. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Would those summaries be destroyed as a matter of routine, to your knowledge? James Wilcott's Testimony Intro Author: Jim Hargrove <hargrove@enteract.com> . Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was Jerry Fox one of the people that made. Mr. WILCOTT - Certainly with George Breen, XXXXXXXXXXX the circle of social friends that we had. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Were you ever able to check those particular files? If you have something --
Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I am sure somewhere. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I have opinions. Mr. WILCOTT - Along those lines they said things like, well, that Oswald couldn't have pulled the trigger, that only CIA could have set up such an elaborate project and there was nobody with the kind of knowledge or information that could have done this, and this was more in the speculative realm. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Copies of my written testimony have disappeared from my personal files. When I interviewed him, he was living alone with his three cats, depending for his income on the charity of his father and disability checks. Also Present: Elizabeth Berning, Chief Clerk, and Charles Berk, Betsy Wolf and James Wolf. Mr. WILCOTT - It was a book that I had. This man said that a large wooden box, 36 x 48 x 60 inches, was used to import arms into the building, one with a false bottom. Mr. PREYER - So that in XXXX, you indicated, six or seven people talked to you and were, as I understood it, rather definite about the Oswald connection? Mr. Shelly was Lee Harvey Oswalds supervisor at the time of the assassination of President Kennedy. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't remember his name now offhand. In 1974, I met a person who says she was at that time working for Bill Schelly, who says he was Lee Harvey Oswalds superior at the time of the assassination. Mr. SAWYER - What was the gist of them? I asked the first man I sawa man who was telephoning from a pillar in the middle of the roomwhere I could call from. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, with the Agency, yes, sir. Towards the end of my tour of duty, I heard certain things about Oswald somehow being connected with the agency, and I didn't really believe this when I heard it, and I thought it was absurd. Mr. CORNWELL - On any other occasions? Mr. GOLDSMITH - And would he corroborate your observation that Oswald was an agent? Its perhaps a moot point anyway, because based on what youve told me, you now know more than I do. First of all I apologize for having to run in and out during your testimony and some of this you may have already covered; and, if you have, then I will not proceed with it. Mr. CORNWELL - Did any event cause any disagreement between you and the Agency? From about January of 1960 to about June of 1960, I was transferred to Finance Field Payroll, also, in this same building, on the Potomac. Mr. CORNWELL - What type of people were they? Needless to say, she never did wear that dress. To his left was a door that led into the office of Scott Foresman. [27] Gerald McKnight, Breach of Trust p. 115. And when did you begin to develop attitudes of dissatisfaction with the Agency and its reaction and attitudes toward what you described as undemocratic principles and a lack of humanism? His information was that he had been unwittingly involved with paying Oswald through a high security clearance, since he worked in the finance office. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't confirm any of them except with the community renewal program as coming from there and I am. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't understand. Common to both the 1977 and 1989 letters are the strange men asking strange questions. But their manner was very relaxed. Please excuse this messy letter. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What do you mean by the term "agent"? Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, it is your testimony that, once you left the XXXXXXXX station, people, both at headquarters, in Langley, and at the Miami Station, made references to Oswald being an agent, is that correct? Mr. WILCOTT - I believe they would at one time. It would be easy to verify: (1) if a reporter named Glaze has ever worked for the Lubbock newspaper, (2) if a journalist named Glaze was living in Dallas in 1974/1975. 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