In the flat spin sequence, Goose calls "Altitude 8,000, 7,000, 6,000", but when he calls "6,000" the altimeter is passing through 2,000 feet. Maverick : Sorry to bother you on a Sunday, sir, but thank you very much for your time. Maverick claims to have been in an "inverted" dive w/ the MiG-28. You can count it. Affiliation First you've acquired enough points to show up tomorrow and graduate with your Top Gun class, or you can quit. It is not distinctly possible for the aircraft carrier's radar to indicate that. During the first hop, the sky is clear with minimal cloud cover most of the time, but in the shot near the end of the hop where we see the F-14 chasing the A-4 from above, the sky is extremely cloudy. Controller says at 1:34:47, ""Maverick's re-engaging, sir." He sees shades of Duke Mitchell (Maverick's father) in Maverick, and tells him so near the end of the film: VIPER: You're a lot like he [Maverick's father Duke], only better. Profession Besides the defensive capabilities of the F-14 aircraft being represented by the lack of the use of flares and chaff to deceive enemy missiles, the offensive capabilities of the F-14's are misrepresented as well, presumably to mislead any hostile governments at the time. WebViper, one of his instructors, tells Maverick that he flew with Maverick's father in Vietnam, and that his father's plane disappeared when he was acting heroically on behalf of his fellow pilots. Viper is a Vietnam War vet who flew a McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II along side Duke. Maverick There is no city named Miramar in CA. This is especially noticeable during the briefing before the first hop. Let's go home, Viper has the lead. Maverick Maverick and Iceman seem to change planes during the final fight scene. Maverick: My options, Sir. Then the far shot shows Slider getting up from the same spot where he was sitting. Tell me one thing, if you had to go into battle would you want him with you? No F-4 squadrons ever deployed in Oriskany. WebViper tells him about his father (which could get Viper in a lot of trouble as what he tells him is classified), and he knows that this is what Maverick needs to hear. The correct word in this case is "ensure" as in 'to guarantee.'. WebMaverick tells Rooster that if he were to fly long enough there would be other flyers who would be lost. They are not flexible, nor am I. Simple. Viper Appearance [pauses] (2) The flyby of the tower. During the first briefing, Chipper is smoking a cigarette. First one dies you die too, but there will be others. Charlie hands Maverick the dinner invitation and the closeup of the invitation is a completely different piece of paper than the full shot. See 1:06:16. Neither of them are talking anything factual. He's the head honcho at Top Gun, and he was the first guy to win the coveted Top Gun trophy. We were in the worst dogfight I ever dreamed of. Numerous positional inconsistencies during the volleyball game. Viper Top Gun's naval flight school might not seem like the perfect place for a deep exploration of personal growth, but it does all hold a deeper meaning. The F-14's Heads-Up Display (HUD) is fictional shown at 58:42. Stinger wears a hat/cover inside the ship. In the very next shot, he has no cigarette, and both of his hands are clasped together just under his knee. Niall Gray is a features writer for Screen Rant covering just about every film- or TV-related topic he's loosed upon. The defensive capabilities of the F-14 are misrepresented. When Maverick is taxiing his F-14 on the aircraft carrier following the victory, Goose (long dead by this point), not Merlin, can be seen in the back seat. In the mission when Maverick has Sundown as his RIO, Jester's plane alternates between a plain gray paint job, and a camoflauge one. In the elevator, Charlie's ear alternates between being tucked under her cap and being untucked between shots. Black Top Gun rules of engagement are written for your safety and for that of your team. By the end ofTop Gun, he's learned the importance of teamwork and following orders, saving Iceman instead of chasing personal glory. Viper Top Gun may have beeninspired by thereal Naval Air Station Miramar and its pilots, but its story depicted in the movie is fictional. Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it. Later, while disciplining Maverick and Goose he tells them that if they don't obey the rules, they'll be "history." While Jester praises Maverick's flying, he tells him that he must never leave his wingman. After Iceman's plane is strafed for the second time, Slider says it's OK both engines are running. Later, they suggest it's Maverick's turn at the challenge of hooking up, as though it was Goose's turn previously. All yours. Time jumped by at least an hour just to get that silhouette indoor shot. The Exocet missile is large enough to be visible if it were carried. Top Gun Wiki is a FANDOM Movies Community. Before the final engagement, Stinger says "Gentlemen, this is bullseye." Family Status What's on your mind? Viper reveals that he had served with his father. After the final dogfight with the MiG-28s, the squadron commanding officer comes into the pilots' locker room with a lit stub of a cigar to inform Maverick that he can choose his next assignment. Through most of the first class at Top Gun, Slider has his arm behind Iceman, but right before he says, "The plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room," Slider suddenly disappears. When Maverick is on the flight deck of the carrier a T2 Buckeye jet trainer, painted orange and white, taxis by behind him. Following the flat spin and ejection sequence, Goose was wearing an MBU-14/P oxygen mask. Goose questions Slider, "Slider, thought you wanted to be a pilot, man - what happened?" Second, "The MiG-28 does have a problem with its inverted flight tanks." The Oriskany was featured in the Korean War movie The Bridges at Toko Ri Oriskany plays the part of the fictional USS Savo Island. Maverick's "buzzing the tower" act results in him and Goose being verbally reprimanded by Viper. One day as Maverick pays a visit to Viper's house he tells him about knowing his father and the truth about what really happened to him despite the information about the incident being classified. He also tells him that he has earned enough points to graduate or that he could quit. Blue decals are used for officers, red decals for enlisted. He stayed in it, saved three planes before he bought it. : He finds out that Viper flew with his father. Stinger with the rank of Commander, appears to be in charge of everything throughout -- he asks the controller which pilots are on duty, instructs the Alert 5 aircraft to launch, ask for more pilots to join the dogfight. However, Top Gun neglects to answer a handful of burning questions. The RIO contacted the canopy as he was being propelled above and away from the stricken aircraft, breaking his leg in the process, though he nearly hit the canopy head first. His bike does neither because the bike he is riding is strapped on to a trailer. Maverick He's gruff and blunt. Despite being cleared of any wrongdoing by the board of inquiry, Maverick feels guilty over Goose's death and his flying skill begins to diminish. There will be no engagements below that." Viper: You fly jets long enough, something like this happens. All through Top Gun, RIOs like Goose, Slider, Wolfman and others just look at the radar and talk to their respective pilots. The chase scene where Charlie is chasing Maverick on his motorcycle and slams on her brakes after he stops and pulls over took "two" takes. The squadron markings on both Iceman and Maverick's Tomcats change a few times. In one frame in the opening flight scene, we hear Cougar talking, but in the "first person perspective" shot, we see Maverick's helmet reflected in the cockpit. In USN terminology, a non-friendly surface radar contact is a "skunk". However, during most of the engagement you can clearly see that the fighters are flying much closer to the ground than 10,000 feet. The squadron insignia that Maverick and Goose wear is from VAW-110 "Firebirds", which was an E-2C Hawkeye squadron, and never flew fighters. Cougar appears in the opening scenes ofTop Gunas Maverick's fellow pilot who is shaken by an engagement with enemy aircraft. Mavericks belief that there was no way his father made a mistake during the combat mission that took his life as most around the Navy believed is confirmed There are no points for second place. When Maverick is riding his motorcycle alongside the runway, after the F-14 takes off and turns to the left the shot changes and shows Maverick riding past lighting standards heading toward the runway as indicated by the strobe lights. Therefore, it is highly unlikely that the dogfight scenes as shown would have occurred, as all five hostile aircraft during the final dogfight could have been eliminated before any of the friendly F-14's even made visual contact with the MiG's, which are all shown performing old-fashioned, World War II fighting tactics at close range. During the final dog fight, Iceman's F-14 is hit, resulting in him shutting down an engine. If Maverick's father passed away in 1965 while flying an F-4, then he presumably fought during the early stages of the Vietnam War. For example, during the first Top Gun session he says flat out: VIPER:This school is about combat. Maverick: So you're saying I should quit? Viper The whole thing was made Classified Information because it took place "over the wrong line on some map," so Maverick has not learned until now that his father died a hero, performing a Heroic Sacrifice to save his teammates. One, the aircraft callsign and type of aircraft approaching, so the sailors working the carrier arresting gear know the proper tension to set on the wires for a safe landing. A good pilot is compelled to evaluate what's happened, so he can apply what he's learned. Goose states, ""We're going ballistic, Mav. Viper didn't get that far up the food chain without making a name for himself, and the implication is that he made that name during the Vietnam War, where he flew with Maverick's father. The 'RIOs as second-class citizens' vibe left the community with the F-4. The hard deck represents the ground. At that altitude, such a configuration would not assist the turn. One of Maverick's biggest challenges inTop Gunis learning to let go. What's on your mind? We were in the worst dogfight I ever dreamed of. Maverick shoots a Sparrow missile in the rear quarter at short range, which wouldn't work because the AIM-7 Sparrow needs a lot of closure to guide. They are not flexible, nor am I. The so-called 4-G inverted dive would have caused the Tomcat's vertical stabs to jam into the MiG-28. During Charlie's first briefing, Chipper's sunglasses alternate between being on and off. On the 31st Hop, Maverick and Iceman, now competing directly for the TOPGUN Trophy, pursue an A-4 in a dogfight, but Maverick sees that Iceman is intentionally stalling to score more points. His F-4 was hit, and he was wounded, but he could've made it back. My options, sir. The plane they are working on is actually an A-6 Intruder, not an F-14. Viper: I was there. Throughout the earlier stages ofTop Gun, Maverick believes that his father was killed in action due to his own inability to follow orders. In reality, the Air Boss would have disciplined the LSO or in fact, Cougar would have crashed. Viper In the very opening scene when the planes are landing on the carrier with the song 'Danger Zone' playing in the background you see an F-14 Tomcat with a red & white wing and the # on that jet is 515. The simple fact is you feel responsible for Goose and you have a confidence problem. Viper In the next shot as he's lifted into the helicopter the glove is rolled up over his sleeve protecting his arm from the spray. Wife and children WebViper : [after the first hop with Jester ends with Maverick shooting down Jester at the hard deck and Maverick doing a fly-by near a tower] Gentlemen You had a hell of a first In the opening, a full-screen explanation of the Top Gun program says it was created "to "insure" that pilots receive the training" etc. When Maverick and Merlin are preparing to launch for the final dogfight, one of the shots of the plane on the carrier is Iceman and Slider's F-14. Mike Metcalf (The flame outs are actually the engines being normally brought out of afterburner.). One of the film's last shots shows Maverick throwing Goose's dog tags into the ocean - which, to some, might seem an odd way to honor a fallen friend. 10 men. Soundtracks. WebViper: Goose is dead. So I took it." Source: imdb. Many errors are made when describing maneuvers that various aircraft have made. Instead, they could have ordered Maverick to refuel from an airborne tanker like the KA-6D which would be always airborne for approaching aircraft. United States Navy Viper then reveals then-classified details surrounding Duke's There were bogeys like fireflies all over the sky. At the beginning, they made it clear that Top Gun is for the "best of the best". However, Maverick remembered the lesson that he learned when he lost a dogfight in school, as to why it is important to never leave your wingman. Up there, we gotta push it. That is not usually done. When he first meets Maverick he is not impressed about him being below the hard deck nor him buzzing the tower which got Air Boss Johnson upset. Any aviator gets a wingman detailed by the operations officer, schedule officer or the Squadron Commanding Officer. Additionally none of the "MiG" fighters are carrying any Anti-Shipping Missiles. Status For instance, in the initial carrier scenes, Sundown can be seen briefly as Maverick's RIO. Stinger, the officer, doesn't approve of Maverick's recklessness, but decides to send him to Top Gun, a training school for the best naval aviators. That would be unwise as at that high altitude, oxygen within the canopy would be low. Technical Specs, [after the first hop with Jester ends with Maverick shooting down Jester at the hard deck and Maverick doing a fly-by near a tower], Top movies to watch after being shot by cupid. What I'm about to tell you is classified. : You're a lot like he was. However, it's later revealed Maverick and Goose wear random patches on their flight suits which is incorrect in reality. While riding the motorcycle along the runway, 'Maverick' uses his left hand to pull the clutch. Maverick's tailhook retracts too quickly when he decides to rescue Cougar. There'll be no disgrace. When Maverick is launched on Alert Five, he is catapulted off the bow of the carrier. : Maverick's father is a Vietnam War veteran which is a high factor that would lead to even a President nominating him. However, in the "walking to the planes" sequence prior to Hop 19, we can see another person wearing the same helmet (presumably the pilot Sundown is the RIO to), however the RIO he is walking with is a Caucasian. At 13:58. Niall can be found on Twitter @lordofthegray. : He's your typical, no nonsense, high-ranking naval aviator. Maverick Iceman and Slider wear patches and insignia from then Attack Squadron 25 (VA-25) now Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA-25) the "Fist of the Fleet." When Cougar reports to Stinger's office to turn in his wings, there is a photo of an F-5 (or T-38) in flight beside Stinger's desk. The vehicle "Charlie" is driving was borrowed from her "older date" at the beginning of the movie hence the vehicle having a blue DOD decal. You fly jets long enough, something like this happens. Yet, Merlin fails to warn him. WebViper or Madame Hydra may refer to: Madame Hydra. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Exactly where Hop 31 takes place is totally inconsistent. Trying to prove something? If you had to go into battle, would you want him with you? Let me ask you something. Viper : Well, that's not something the State Department tells dependents when the battle occurred over the wrong line on some map. That spin was hell, it would've shook me up. This is incorrect; he would refer to jets by aircraft side numbers. they would argue with a detailer and their new assignment will appear months later. After feeling guilt over Goose's death, Maverick chooses to protect Iceman as a means of redemption, ultimately making him a hero. In case some of you are wondering who the best is, they are up here on this plaque. Maverick defends his actions, saying he wasn't below for more than a few seconds. Real Navy/Marine Corps pilots break this rule all the time as well. Viper gets a couple near the end: First, when Maverick visits him, he finally discloses the details of how Maverick's father died, and reassures Mav that his old man died honorably in combat. In aviation training the "hard deck" is the simulated ground (for an added layer of safety). See 1:41:14. However, at this point they had not graduated yet. Viper risked his own career to share this with Maverick, because he knew that Maverick needed to hear it. When Stinger says "The communication ship SS Layton has become disabled, and has wandered into foreign territory" the movement of his lips clearly doesn't match what he is saying. Viper also tells Maverick he can succeed if he can regain his self-confidence. Maverick tells her his story about his encounter with the enemy MiG, thus making her interested in him. established and the fighter makes a clearing turn parallel base In the "Hit the brakes and he'll fly right by" scene in the final dog fight when he manipulates the throttle, Maverick's watch changes from a black Orfina Porche to a stainless steel Rolex Submariner. The bird cage at Charlie's place disappears from behind her when 'Dock of the Bay' starts playing. United States Navy In reality, the F-14 should taxi away to allow other approaching aircraft to land. 104, but in his catapult launch the aircraft shown is No. However, later in the movie, it becomes clear that Goose is happily married and has a family of his own. Medal of Honor recipient James Stockdale commanded VF51 in 1964 flying off the USS Ticonderoga. Charlie is talking nonsensical facts when stating first, "The F-5 doesn't have the thrust-to-weight ratio that the MiG-28 has." In the scene when Maverick and Goose get in trouble for flying by the tower, we see a close-up of Jester's flight suit. | As Goose was killed during the ejection, there is no explanation as to why his mask was undone in the water. : His pilot's wings are for a USAF Senior pilot, not a Naval Aviator's wings. Not only do the Navy and Marines have their own equivalent medal, the Navy variant is typically only awarded to submarine crews, not aviators based on an aircraft carrier. Top movies to watch after being shot by cupid. However, when he is sat having lunch with her it is clearly much earlier in the day (indicative of it being lighter and the sun casting shorter shadows). At the end of the movie when Maverick and Ice come in to land on the aircraft carrier, the first shot of Maverick's F-14 still has Goose's name written below the canopy. This, in addition to any ground targets within range of the appropriate weapons, had the F-14's been equipped with The AIM-7M Sparrow, for example, developed in 1982 which the F-14 carried, has an effective range of up to 31 miles. Anybody with a name like Viper must be one bad dude. "Bullseye" is a fixed point on a map, by which navigation instructions can be relayed over the radio, without giving any vital information away to possible enemies in the area. In the end, Maverick chooses to graduate from the program, though Iceman officially wins the TOPGUN Trophy. Maverick argues that, ""We weren't below the hard deck for more than a few seconds. Entering Top Gun, Iceman is considered to be the best; Goose tells Maverick (and us) as much. What does Viper tell Maverick about Mavericks father? Before an ejection, crews are taught to fasten their oxygen masks securely to not only provide oxygen at high altitudes, but also to prevent it from causing injuries. 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