And again, I made up the civilian name. Larry Lee is the younger brother of Stan Lee and was born on October 26th, 1931. Stan's Family Marvel Jack Lieber and Celia Lieber - Parents. No. The Larry Lieber Deposition For The Kirby Family Vs Marvel Lawsuit . LARRY LIEBER: Well, either I sent it to the person. LARRY LIEBER: No. LARRY LIEBER: Yeah, I yeah, I guess. He scripted and occasionally also drew the odd Western or Sgt. 1930s - living) 0 references . Yes. LARRY LIEBER: Well, when the when the I give a You could have done that," and he'd make some little corrections. He originally wanted to be an artist, but he "draws too slowly" and his brother needed a writer . LARRY LIEBER: No. Please join us in collaborating on LIEBER family trees. He was very easy, he was showing me and hed make some little corrections. [22] Lieber wrote the first nine Ant-Man stories (following the character's non-costumed introduction months earlier) in Tales to Astonish #35-43 (Sept. 1962 - May 1963) before veteran Ernie Hart did five issues, followed by Lee taking over. LARRY LIEBER: You mean the in the story parts? He remembered writers from the past. LARRY LIEBER: I think I had them at the very beginning when I started writing. Frank Lieber (Lieber family) Frank Lieber served as president of the District 108 School Board in Highland Park during the 1970s, and raised funds for Highland . I used to Stan liked the way I made up names, civilian names, and I used to, from my years of doing these, what do you call it, these fantasy books, monster books, and I used to look at the back of dictionary, Miriam Webster had biographical names and geographical, so I would look in towns and if I liked the town, I might put it. Indexer Notes. And I put in a voucher. He is the younger brother of Stan Lee, the creator of numerous Marvel superheroes. Q: Did he ever make changes to your stories or the scripts you would turn in? Discover your ancestry - search Birth, Marriage and Death certificates, census records, immigration lists and other records - all in one family search! LARRY LIEBER: Yes. [25][26] With co-scripter Gary Friedrich primarily, Lieber wrote the hero's seven-page lead feature in the weekly Captain Britain #24-37 (March 23 - June 22, 1977), and, with co-writer Jim Lawrence, Captain Britain adventures in Marvel UK's Super Spider-Man #233-246 (July 27-Oct. 26, 1977). Q: And is it fair to say you don't know when those legends first started appearing? He said, Larry if you want, you can write The Hulk and draw it. Celia married Jacob Aaron Lieber on month day 1920, at age 26 at marriage place, New York. His parents were Romanian Jewish immigrants. Is that consistent with your recollection? Did you look at a book again? Erwin Lieber and Margaret Elizabeth (Taylor) Lieber. It didn't appeal to me. He scripted and occasionally also drew the odd Western or Sgt. Hexagon Comics celebrates the 60th anniversary of Barbarella by releasing two comic books by Jean-Claude Forest, for the first time in English. Maybe there was just too much humor in it, or too much something. Devoted son of Issie and Marsha Lieber, and son-in-law of Jeannette and Rejean Gagne . The media giant, which acquired Marvel in 2009, on Friday sued Larry Lieber, who helped create the characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man, and the estates of several . [11], In 1951, he enlisted[8] with the U.S. Air Force, beginning four years of military service. Lambiek Comiclopedia artist ID. LARRY LIEBER: Okay, I didn't know the term. Ancestors. Lieber, by now living in the Tudor City apartment complex in Manhattan, began freelancing[14] regularly for the nascent Marvel Comics, "writing stories for Jack [Kirby] to draw",[12] referring to the artist who had co-created Captain America for the company in 1940 and had recently returned for a long, exclusive stint in which Kirby would co-create many signature Marvel characters in the Silver Age of Comics. Were the scripts that you wrote for Iron Man, Ant-Man and Thor, were those Marvel style? Q: And how did you come to write the first script? Suite 620 Beverly Hills, CA 90210-4608 USA: Hobbies: Writing stories: Q: What how did you come to work on Rawhide Kid? [4], Lee wrote in his autobiography that when Larry was 15, the boys' mother died and Lieber went to live with his brother and his sister-in-law, Joan, prompting the trio's move to Woodmere, New York, on Long Island. Changes in not in the basic story or anything, because I knew how to tell a story as well as anybody, I think, in terms of sequentially and what to draw, what to tell the artist. Walt Disney Co. has targeted several legendary comic book artists with lawsuits seeking to decisively establish that it owns the rights to Marvel superheroes they helped create. LARRY LIEBER: Stan offered me I had to earn a living. (break in testimony) Fury war-comics story or a standalone tale in one of the Marvel line of black-and-white magazines such as Vampire Tales or Haunt of Horror. LARRY LIEBER: No. 0 references. Q: Okay. LARRY LIEBER: I wrote the first script for Iron Man also. LARRY LIEBER: No, they all came from Stan Lee. I remember once, and I dont know when it was, but my uncle, Rob Solomon, took me down to Timely Comics.". Larry Lieber studied at the Pratt Art Institute, Brooklyn, New York, and the Art Students League, New York City. LARRY LIEBER: I don't recall the exact words, but the gist of it was that I was giving up all rights to it, that the work, you know, now is with the company and and I don't remember the exact wording, but I think it was something "giving up your rights" or "all rights." LARRY LIEBER: Yes. LARRY LIEBER: I would grow to the office with it. I didn't want to give a light tone to it. MR. TOBEROFF: Assumes facts. After the Great Depression, Jack had a hard time finding work, which made the family move from . date of birth. He said, and I repeat, he said, "I read your letters and I can teach you what you need." What was the form it came in? Q: And you say, "They were full scripts and I didn't think of Jack when I wrote it at all. Also I think its even more dramatic than [the] Spider-Man [comic strip]". MS. SINGER: Objection to form. [8], 1950s[edit] After returning from the service, Lieber attended Manhattan's Art Students League. LARRY LIEBER: I'm sorry, I You say the characters? I'm just objecting for the record. LARRY LIEBER: Okay. I assume I I I must have put it in and given it to Stan's office, perhaps his secretary or somebody, I think I did, and then they paid me and I I don't remember. My brother [Stan Lee] was in it and he started when he was about 17 or 18 or whatever. He said, "Oh, you could have said this. I try to finish it, but sometimes I can't, so he just sees roughs, but that is good enough for him to get the idea if I captured the scene right. And as time went on, he had fewer to make."[14]. Q: Did you see any artwork on Thor before you wrote the script? Lieber largely left superheroes to write and pencil what would be his signature series, the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid, beginning with issue #41 (Aug. 1964) and continuing through 1973 (after which it became a reprint title). [24], When Atlas went under, Lieber received six months severance pay and spent time trying to devise a newspaper comic strip for syndication. That was one area because I'm wanting to be an artist myself, and I thought I had a very good sense of the drama and what to put down, what to draw. Finally, you know, he did like it and I was allowed to write the script and I got paid for the script. But I always wrote a script here. MR. TOBEROFF: Go ahead. Usually, there were six panels on a page and I would describe the action in the first in the first panel. I simply wouldn't have the time to continue with The Fantastic Four, The Hulk, Spider-Man and the other odd Western, mystery, romance, humor, and assorted monster tales I was writing and still do justice to our newest feature yet a'borning. No. It depends. So once again I was writing and drawing, and that I enjoyed even more than the Rawhide Kid. Writer: Iron Man. [21] Lieber wrote the first nine Ant-Man stories (following the character's non-costumed introduction months earlier) in Tales to Astonish #35-43 (Sept. 1962 - May 1963) before veteran Ernie Hart did five issues, followed by Lee taking over. Sep 08, 2015 at 12:12 pm. Tudor City had a park, and when it was nice I'd sit there and break the story down picture by picture. Being the son of a Hell-Lord, Daimon Hellstrom became a Lord of Hell himself, drawing power from the Hell dimension. And at that Q: Do you know what a declaration is? Newly minted 13th Dimension regular Jim Beard is back with another foray into Marvel's past this time paying tribute to Larry Lieber, who was born 91 years ago on Oct. 26, 1931. LARRY LIEBER: I don't remember whether I initiated it or Stan offered it to me. LARRY LIEBER: Okay. He continues to pencil the Spider-Man daily strip as of 2014. - Larry Lieber Speaks", "Jim Mooney Over Marvel: From Terrytoons to Omega the Unknown, Jim talks Comics", "Larry Lieber Retires from The Amazing Spider-Man", "Archie Goodwin, Larry Lieber to Receive Bill Finger Award", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Larry_Lieber&oldid=1139371947, This page was last edited on 14 February 2023, at 20:06. [27], The Hulk was kind of popular on television, and so I drew The [Incredible] Hulk. Facebook gives people the power to. LARRY LIEBER: The civilian name of Don Blake I made up. Lee then took over as regular writer for the next few years. When he was six months old, the family moved to The Bronx, settling into at 1720 University Avenue, which Lee . Q: I'm sorry, the "he" in that was Stan Lee? Q: Is that because those pages were originally ripped in half? Q: Do you know the story behind the creation of Thor? Q: Okay. Stanley Martin (Stan) Lee formerly Lieber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Lieber. As Lieber recalled it to comics historian Daniel Best, "My mother died when I was 16. Lieber is best known for scripting the first appearances of the Marvel characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel Western . So he hired somebody and then the next week when I came back to him he said, "Larry, you know something, youre no good, but you're better than these other guys. [26][27] With co-scripter Gary Friedrich primarily, Lieber wrote the hero's seven-page lead feature in the weekly Captain Britain #24-37 (March 23 - June 22, 1977),[28] and, with co-writer Jim Lawrence, Captain Britain adventures in Marvel UK's Super Spider-Man #233-246 (July 27-Oct. 26, 1977). Larry Lieber was witness to the aftermath of one story conference. l/lieber_larry. Sometimes if there was a lot of action, you might play up that panel and only have five, let's say, one panel across. Q: Okay. Larry Lieber is the younger brother of Stan Lee. I don't remember when I first got them. Happy 90th Birthday to comic book and comic strip cartoonist Larry Lieber! I didn't have any steady work then. [8], In 1980 and 1981, concurrent with the Hulk strip, Lieber contributed some degree of penciling on the daily and Sunday comic strip The Amazing Spider Man until Fred Kida took over as regular penciler. I made up a plot and I brought it in to the editor, and the editor thought it wasn't good enough and told me to go back and rewrite it, the plot, work on it some more, develop it. I'm sorry. LARRY LIEBER: Years later. "I still wanted to be an artist and do comics, but I had in mind to eventually become an illustrator," he said in 1999. In 2008, he was one of two recipients of that year's Bill Finger Award, which annually honors one living and one deceased comics creator. "[12] He again drew for his brother, editor Stan Lee, at the 1950s forerunner of Marvel Comics, known generally as Atlas Comics, though whether on staff or freelance is uncertain. Q: During all the time you did work with Marvel, did you have a written contract with Marvel? Q: Okay. They could go from one to another, and some of the artists would actually play, you know, one company against another in the sense of saying, "Oh, I've been offered more money there," so if the art director wanted to keep him, he had to, you know, give him give him a little more. Q: And those scripts were purchased by Marvel? 1962). Jay Lieber, beloved husband of Judy. Q: You can answer. In the mid . He may, probably, he had come out of Stan's office, and he seemed upset. His final strip ran September 8, 2018. LARRY LIEBER: And once I tried, because I couldn't get work from Marvel and I sent some samples of my not original artwork because I didn't have it, but I sent some comic books over to DC through a friend of mine, Frank Giacoia, who had worked for them, they knew him. Q: Was the first scripts for Marvel strike that. I wanted to leave, so I left. Q: Did you come up with any of the names in Thor? Stan Lee Children. Stan said, 'I'm trying to make up a character,' and he gave me the plot, and he said, 'Why don't you write the story? Didn't have to have six panels. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. I think I wanted a little more freedom. I I don't recall getting it at home. Mother of: Stanley Martin Lieber, aka Stan Lee Lawrence D. "Larry" Lieber (B2610310R) Burial: 17 Dec 1947 NY, NY City Municipal Deaths (FamilySearch) Thank you, Shannon. LARRY LIEBER is one of the more overlooked, underrated and as such forgotten men from the Silver Age of Marvel comics. v. Kirby et al. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. On the checks you received for your freelance work, did they have language stating that your work was work made for hire? Some of these stories were even co-written with his brother Stanley Lieber aka Stan Lee. I lived with him for a while and it didn't work out so well. [5] At "about ten-and-a-half", with his brother in the U.S. Army, Lieber and his parents returned to Manhattan, moving to the Washington Heights neighborhood. [11] "It wasn't a very easy period," he said in 1999. MR. TOBEROFF: Sometimes if you answer too rapidly, I would be talking over you. LARRY LIEBER: I think I wrote the first the first script. Son of Jack Aron Lieber and Celia Lieber LARRY LIEBER: It was after I had done The Rawhide Kid and I was trying, trying to earn a living doing some drawing of covers and also writing, and I wrote various stories. LARRY LIEBER: I paused. So I always felt I couldn't get work from any other company, and some years later, I met the man who was the, I guess, art director there and we were we were chatting, and I happened to bring this up about I sent work over and I never got it, and he looked at me in surprise and said, "You mean that was on the level?" Was there anything, just to be clear so for the record Q: Okay. But both are doing them, you know, about playing a part. For the first year or two, you know, I was learning. Q: Are you familiar with a comic called Iron Man? Since 2021 the record price for this artist at auction is 650 USD for Lieber Larry - The Amazing Spider-Man, sold at . LARRY LIEBER: Thank me for Anthony Stark. That was the way I interpreted it anyway. Q: Now, as a freelancer, if your work was rejected, you wouldn't be paid for that, would you? No. I did not get paid as much as Stan, you know, his rate. MS. SINGER: Yes, carrying over. [5] At "about ten-and-a-half", with his brother in U.S. Army, Lieber and his parents returned to Manhattan, moving to the Washington Heights neighborhood. "[23] He considered seeking work at rival DC Comics, as some other Marvel writers and artists did, but found, "I was the only one who could never do that because that was the price for Stan being my brother. I I liked it was an opportunity for me to write and draw the same strip, and that appealed to me. He is a writer, known for Iron Man (2008), Ant-Man (2015) and Avengers: Endgame (2019). LARRY LIEBER: Oh, yes. I assumed, seeing a man walk out of the office and tear his artwork up, that or I thought probably they were rejected and he was annoyed or disgusted. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, Oct 26 1931 - New York City, New York, USA, Oct 26 1931 - Manhattan, New York City, New York, United States, Jacob Aaron Lieber, Celia Lieber (born Solomon), Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/194676861/jacob-aaron-lieber, New York, New York County, NY, United States. LARRY LIEBER: They had about three stories in the magazine, drawn by different people. Q: That was my next question. LARRY LIEBER: I felt that they didn't have to pay me for it. LARRY LIEBER: No. At that time it was called Timely Comics and he owned it, Martin Goodman. I think I wanted a little more freedom. I didn't want to hear something like that." "[8], At 17, Lieber became a messenger for The New York Times and also found work at the Times Square studio of Sam Furber, a letterer whose work included movie posters. I I don't understand the things very well. LARRY LIEBER: No. Larry Lieber, who scripted the initial appearances of Iron Man, Thor, Ant-Man, Loki, Fin Fang Foom, and other heroic and villainous characters in the Marvel Universe, has sued Marvel/Disney for a bigger portion of the pie. Thanks to Daniel Best for posting these public transcripts online. Q: When he would give you an assignment, did you have a deadline or something that you had to get it back by a certain time? LARRY LIEBER: Scotch tape. I had a certain page rate, which I don't recall exactly. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. I'm sorry. The others are worse than me. Find Dr. Lieber's phone number, address, insurance information, hospital affiliations and more. LARRY LIEBER: He made up a character and he wanted and he asked me to write it. I was working during the day and I went to [the Pratt Institute art school, in Brooklyn, in] the evening. [16], Marvel superheroes and the Rawhide Kid[edit] Under Stan Lee plots, Lieber would go on to script the debut origin stories and other early appearances of the superheroes Thor (co-created with artist Jack Kirby) in Journey into Mystery, Iron Man (co-created with Kirby and Don Heck) in Tales of Suspense, and Ant-Man (co-created with Kirby) in Tales to Astonish. So I could never do that. I was just a kid and kids liked comics at that time. Q: Please. Larry Lieber was born on 26 October 1931 in Manhattan, New York City, New York, USA. Stan Lee's father was of Romanian descent. After that, after the Hulk, Stan left. Q: Did you work on a typewriter? Afterwards, I had been so used to it that I wouldn't have noticed if it was still there or not. Larry Lieber (Lawrence D. Lieber) was born on 26 October, 1931 in Manhattan, New York City, New York, USA, is a Writer, Miscellaneous. Or perhaps the freelancers had a different hour or different day, I don't know. (I still retain an affection for western comics.) June, the end of June. But I don't yeah, yeah, Stan. That was it. The media giant, which acquired Marvel in 2009, on Friday sued Larry Lieber, who helped create the characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man, and the estates of several other artists, including Spider . . Lieber largely left superheroes to write and pencil what would be his signature series, the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid, beginning with issue #41 (Aug. 1964) and continuing through 1973 (after which it became a reprint title). Larry Lieber. Larry Lieber is Stan Lee's younger brother and wrote Marvel books in the sixties such as Iron Man, Thor and Rawhide Kid. [9] Lieber began working for Goodman as an art assistant on the magazine side, "doing paste-ups. He would go over my work and, you know, do things. LARRY LIEBER: No. MR. TOBEROFF: I'm supposed to object before you answer. But he always used it. Thanks to family connections, he got a job at the publishing company Timely. I'm sorry, what? LARRY LIEBER: Stan. I might have read it. [1], Lieber also penciled The Amazing Spider-Man Annual #4-5 (1967-1968), the latter introducing in flashback the late parents of protagonist Peter Parker; co-wrote and co-penciled the first solo Doctor Doom feature story, in Marvel Super-Heroes #20 (May 1969);[11] and did occasional other work including, for Magazine Management's men's magazines, several stories of the bawdy "nudie-cutie" comedy feature "Pussycat". Regardless, his next confirmed credit is penciling and inking the three-page story "A World to Conquer" in Journey into Unknown Worlds #52 (Dec. 1956), followed by stories in such Atlas romance comics as Love Romances, Love Tales, Stories of Romance, True Tales of Love and The Romances of Nurse Helen Grant in issues cover-dated April to August 1957 and July 1958. Looking for Larry Lieber online? 369 subject(s) created by "Larry Lieber" 3 work(s) that were produced while "Larry Lieber" was Editor-in-Chief 142 work(s) where "Larry Lieber" worked on a cover 56 work(s) that "Larry Lieber" edited 282 work(s) that "Larry Lieber" wrote 157 work(s) that "Larry Lieber" penciled 33 work(s) that "Larry . LARRY LIEBER: No. Slowly surveying our entire, vast writing staff which mainly consisted of myself and any occasional freelancer who happened to wander in to make a free phone call my gaze happened to fall upon Larry Lieber and I remembered that he had many times expressed a desire to write a superhero story.[19]. '"[20] Under Lee's plotting, Lieber's eight Thor stories also introduced the Marvel characters Loki, Odin, and Balder, from the pantheon of Norse mythological gods; their home, Asgard; and Bifrost the Rainbow Bridge, which connected that realm to Earth. Q: What did you come up with? The only, and this isn't interviewed, but, no, no, no, no, no. 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