Welcome to Faith Friday on the "Faith, Art & Tiny Houses" podcast. As to your observation Unbelievers wont miss the message the first time, much less the second or third. I dont mind the repetition of this song. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Ive been fascinated by this song since the first time I heard it. It was not of their own merits that God chose them, but because he is faithful to his former promises to the patriarchs, and that he loves his chosen position (he is jealous for them). May His favor be upon you And a thousand generations Your family and your children And their children, and their children. Judy loadsman. And yes, there are many songs that just repeat the same human-centered ideas over and over, especially from certain seeker friendly churches. Great news! Furthermore if we take as strict a context as you are taking, then the entire Bible is not for the modern day Christian. Vince I think your response is very well said. His promises never fail. You are correct about the original context. He gave us His only begotten Son to die on the cross for our sins so that we dont perish and for us to have everlasting life with Him in Heaven. you. Its dizzying the amount of times the song is repeated. This raised this songs score from 9.5/10 to 10/10. He is faithful, to the thousandth generation (i.e. Just wondering I accidentally came across your site and I do think its important to examine lyrics. That is the government we live in. When it feels like a slog sometimes thats the analyst not giving way to the poet. 13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever. Thank you, Lord bless the artist for these wonderful lyrics, I love the comment, We are created for the glory of God. May the Lord bless you and protect you. Most often not due to reverentially to God, but rather by way of applying the words to your own lifes circumstances, which cause your fake spiritual euphoric moment. I think this has been to the detriment of the world today and especially the church. I should have stated it as a possibility, not a guaranteed reality. Virtually all artists copyright their music, including Christian artists who borrow from the Bible for their music. I love the whole thing lyrics, repeating, music, the way I feel when Im singing, saying amen over and over and then repeating everything all over. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick%27s_Breastplate. 7, read it all, in context). I became profitable this year, covering all the costs I put into it since 2018. [May] the Lord bless you and keep you, Make His face shine upon you And be gracious to you May His presence go before you, And behind you, and beside you In your weeping and your rejoicing, He is with you May His favor be upon [our nation], for a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children. But to be sung by everyone in a time where it is thought that were bringing glory to God I believe it is out of its proper context. 25 May the Lord smile on you and be gracious to you. I did appreciate the quote from Spurgeon on discernment. Even the word, blessing, may be somewhat misunderstood. I just feel wary of painting God as this benefactor when people could be setting their faces again God with their unrepentant sin. Thank you for your comment! The Lord turn His What do we use listening & informal participation within Christian songs/performances for?, as PART of worship right. Non-believers are more often than not, confused about a lot of things in Gods word. I have watched several versions and my favorite is the one from New Zealand/Aotearoa, which really fills me with God spirit and with a great homesickness for New Zealand, which is one of three countries that I call home. I fill the love (aroha) and the caring (manaakitanga) of all those singing the Blessing. When I first heard this worship song, I immediately cried. And behind you, and beside you It certainly wouldnt hurt to sing blessings mid-service! We may never know or see, on this side of Heaven, the specific impact of our life on Kingdom, but if you do ever get a glimpse, it will catalyze your faith like nothing else; I had that happen once back in my college day, in which my interaction with someone, which at the time for for purely personal reasons, was used by God to further His Kingdom I came to find out that this person saw the love and grace of Christ in me, despite me, and gave their life to Him. That you would open the right doors for our lives and for our loved ones, that you would close the wrong doors and protect us from those we need to walk away from. Again, I guess this applies only to those in Christ who has fulfilled the requirements of the law on their behalf and thus brought Gods blessing to them. There is nothing wrong with asking the Lord to bless those we hold dear. While its Biblically accurate it is neither a song of praise nor worship because its focus is on us and not on God. All rights reserved. It is a prayer based on scripture set to music. Holy, Holy, Holy, is the LORD of hosts, The whole earth is full of His glory (Isa 6:3; Rev 4:8; NAS95). Again no, He doesnt. Psalm 30:5 "For his anger is but for a moment, and his favor is for a lifetime. Jon I agree that scripture should be read in context but I disagree that in this instance a blessing has been taken out of context. Interesting technical review. Be blessed Vince and thank you for letting reply. You still reserve the right to dock points for repetition strictly out of preference of style, though, Vince. There is deeper things than a direct song review bothering me & I think it should similarly bother all Christians! The issue lies within its use. Psalm 118:25 Save now, I beseech thee, O LORD: O LORD, I beseech thee, send now prosperity. But God is concerned if our hearts are whole. Genesis 43:29 And he lifted up his eyes, and saw his brother Benjamin, his mother's son, and said, Is this your younger brother, of whom ye spake unto me? Lost parents, dead churches, humor in the place of joy. And a thousand generations get to know the Bible better! UPPERROOM (Feat. And for the wood offering, at times appointed, and for the firstfruits. What you are doing here is very important in todays world where there is so much noise and confusion in and around Christian music. I was also prepared about your frustrations with repetition after being a good girl and following your links to the criteria section. You have shown your last kindness to be better than the first by not going after young men, whether poor or rich. We love to receive blessings, but not as quock to carry out the responsibility that comes with one. *******Begin Quote******* I am not a skilled songwriter or gifted musician, but I heard this worship song for the first time as I was driving across the state to a wedding shower for my eldest sons fianc. He prays for the knowledge and sensible experience of God's good providence. All rights reserved. Maybe a blessing to sing over others, like a benediction post service, but is it really me worshiping God? In the same way, God shows favor to the ones who delight in . this song is completely a blessing for not just any church but for each individual soul listening to it. That being said. I am not at all disregarding emotions as the Bible teaches us to Love our God with all our heart, soul, strength and mind.. How would an outsider interpret the song And here I feel you got it wrong. Shan Nope & Ill stick to being overly cautious [not saying always outright wrong] with the mystical influences [kundalini similarity] of repetition. It makes me draw closer to God anytime I listen to it. Try Bible Gateway Plus free today! We are still children of the age of rationalism. I am sorry to hear about your tragedy. The psalms also talk about things that God hates (like a lying tongue). God made both the intellectual AND the emotional within us. I quote from a video of one missionary Spencer Smith, titled What Happens When We Worship Worship actually specifically talking about this song & having experienced similar things in Africa This Religious emotional euphoria that they are being given, is nothing more than a spiritual hit of crack. He will simply think whoever this Lord is being sung about, seems good. Ask God for these blessings for yourself. I grew up in and then served churches with three hymns (reduced to only two so a childrent sermon could be fit in the requisite 60 minutes) and a sermon with three points and a poem. My son sometimes uses ItchyTurtle when gaming, which also paints a quirky image! From a Biblical perspective, Moses didnt have any problem reminding God about His promise to make Israel as numerous as the stars of heaven. and its blessing to people why? Im not sure how I even feel about that as it is taken out of context, but thats something Im working through right now. The problem, then, lies with not with the lyrics. Well, Im late and maybe someone else could put this in a more biblically referenced context, but Id just add that as human beings, we should constantly be reminding ourselves that questions of reasoning, that is, human reasoning like, if God is all knowing, why does God need to be reminded? are concluded from leaning on our own understanding. Used by permission of Tyndale House Publishers, Inc., Carol Stream, Illinois 60188. Vie Motivation. 1) It assumes that the unbeliever WILL automatically misunderstand that the song meant for believers and, therefore, WILL NOT repent of their sins. Here are the 50 most uplifting Bible scriptures on favor. nothing worse than losing people we love.. the only thing that is worse is not knowing God and loosing heaven and Gods presence. - Numbers 6:24-26. 11 And Moses besought the LORD his God, and said, LORD, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand? It seems therefore it should only be pronounced to the church [to those who are in Christ by faith (1Pet 2:9/ Rev 1:5-6)] and probably best after a reminder of the gospel the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sin. Amen. Artists work hard to produce music and lyrics. Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? We don't have to worry. . The Bible expounds on three Hananiahs in particular, one before the Babylonian exile, one during the exile, and one when the Jews returned to Jerusalem from their captivity in Babylon. Know therefore that the Lord thy God, He is God, the faithful God, who keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love Him and keep His commandments to a thousand generations, ASV. I agree, I dont see this as useful for corporate worship. My advice is to take the meat and throw away the bones. EDIT: Removed first sentence, which replied to a comment now deleted. And yes, Im especially referring to these places churning out thousands of contemporary, shallow, often nonsensical Christian songs, mainly for or partly for other reasons than truly caring for where those consuming it, ends up! This song is a beautiful, simultaneous pronouncement of blessing over the corporate church and the individual believer. God bless you! Sang for my city and our country, especially for those who have yet to know the Lord and experience the blessing of life with Him. Ha ha! It took everything that I read in the Bible about Gods love for me and wrapped it into the biggest blessing God can give us. We should all do our own due diligence to examine the theology of artists.. Hello! Measure each with such surety / purity & chuck the unnecessary thousands of other songs on your phone or hard drive. { May His Favor be upon you And a Thousand Generations Your Family and your Children And their Children And their Children May His Favor be upon you . He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. In that agrarian society, good weather was all-important. The Lord bless you DO NOT GO ROUND N ROUND CHASING EVERY RABBIT & MAYBE END UP CATCHING THE WORTHLESS ONEs. In your weeping, and rejoicing It was so encouraging for me knowing that The Lord does keep me and give me peace HIs presence goes before me and He is ever present it became almost a battle cry as I engage in a battle that is not of flesh and blood I believe it is unwise to make any sweeping judgement regarding what God can or cant do through the Holy Spirit in peoples hearts through a song through any song. Although the song is scriptural, it relies heavily on repetition that in my context elicits a cultural animistic mystical response. NO,EAT HEALTHY! Slog? Is this different from passing the peace, which I consider another time stealer, especially when this action is done before the confession, as is the situation in many protestant churches, which no longer have a prayer of confession. Deuteronomy 28:2, ESV And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, if you obey the voice of the LORD your God.Read More: Bible Verses about Obedience and Disobedience Matthew 6:33, NLT Seek the Kingdom of God above all else, and live righteously . Face towardyou Numbers 6:25: The LORD make His face to shine upon you. Repetitions create Emotions. For example, God remembered Noah, then made the water recede. 1. Me-Me-Me, Its all about Me NO, its not about you Its about God ALL OF IT !!! The repetition is worship; I sense Gods heavy Presence, love and blessing more and more, the longer it goes on. And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes. Scriptures On God's Favor And his master saw that the Lord was with him and that the Lord made all he did to prosper in his hand. We do not know whether the people who were being wronged . If we think, having heard the words once through, we get it perhaps we havent perhaps to go deeper takes time, perhaps seeking takes time and yes repetition until the truth of the scripture really captivates our spirit beyond our mind. And, years later, hearing the Hebrews cries for rescue, God remembered His covenant with their ancestors and rescued them. The major problem I see is that most people emphasize the emotional aspect of worship. This canvas is built with a solid face to prevent sagging or warping but is light as feather and offers easy hassle free installation with the included hanging hardware. Enough to send His Son to us & to send His Spirit to live in us! This is my reaction too it brings me to tears. I First check it whether it is completely biblical or not. Just explaining my context. This brings it home even more powerfully and personally for me. As a pastor of a traditional denomination I seemed to end up with very dysfunctional congregation. I believe the comment in the conclusion saying Despite its overreliance on as nauseum refrains is unfair and a detriment to the beauty of this song and as such should be removed from the analysis and besides, it seems that most people love the repetition. In our coming and going He is with us.and our children, and their children, and their childrens children.. May the LORD smile on you and be gracious to you. The emphasis and focus of all these cults is Prosperity and comfort your best life now.. and we all know that the Bible teaches that our best life is not here on this planet. I tailored my commentary as a side note, to those sensitive to repetition. And then over more of my extended family. Repetition is definitely talked about in the book of Revelation. Non water-proof fabric. Its good in your work and training to help you build muscle memory, but vain repetition of words is definitely bad. Of course, He also made a way for His enemies to be forgiven. CHOMP-CHOMP-CHOMP . is the Lord God Almighty,[a] Pastor, retired, Mark Can you clarify what you mean by grading music based on personal preference? He is for you, He is for you. Their hearts are far from God (Isaiah 29:13, Ezekiel 33:31, and Matthew 15:79). People think that these songs are so supportive when they go through a depression or tough time Nothing like the word of God and prayer without any sounds in that period of time and if you really want a song during that time just go to a hymnal book and pick a song that speaks to your mind not emotions. [19] Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked. And Vince I totally understand your evaluation criteria being solely directed towards the lyrics in as far as what is Biblically sound. it might sound like just as a sentence That we would become more sensitive to Gods presence that exists everywhere, including the Holy Spirit indwelling within us. How a Christian applies his mind is of crucial importance! Thank you for speaking out the truth in love, it takes great courage and its what this world really needs even though it may not be what it wants. Amen, Vince. I do have a question about the lyrics that I wonder if you can help me understand- and am curious and not intending to criticize the song. Robert C. Peurifoy, Now let us discern this, the problem with songs labelled Christian; is not just lyrics, music, performance style or in fact often have nothing to do with the song or the artist performing it being possibly found sound by measure, but the where-from. Something Beautiful Today's Scripture: And there is none that calleth upon thy name,that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee:for thou hast hid thy face Christians should saturate their minds with such first and foremost, BEFORE they concern themselves with another Christian band or song, another Christian band or song, another Christian band or song, another Christian band or song you get the picture I hope. Youve given me a lot to chew on in terms of section 3. high on emotions and minimal on sound thinking. Cody Carnes & Kari Jobe) didnt write their song from a open source Greek and Hebrew manuscripts that they translated them selfs. He is with you, He is with you. (Principles remain love your neighbors, dont be a pagan, theres only one God.). And look at the people the close-ups of people weeping. Coming up is the anniversary of the death of our son six years ago. Yes, the people of the Most High are Israel, including the churchits not a genetics thing; but if thats the case (and it is) then we are held to the same expectations in that regard, save for anything Levitical post-golden calf, as that was added after the covenant and has since been made obsolete via the blood of our Savior. Like God's grace.His favor is also unmerited. after a conclusion When i listen to it Ill be taking the lyrics and the word directly to my heart. This takes you further away & not nearer to God! It wasnt just King David who cried out for the Lords remembrance. I dont believe this song does either. 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