Then again, he's in a tough business. All the people on here are asking perfectly natural questions. In the South, if you're "black Irish," it's not a slur, by any means. I have pictures of myself and my mother when we were born and we had the darkest skin. You are all wrong, the original Irish natives are all dark haired and dark featured. Each of these immigrant groups had their own physical characteristics and all, with the exception of the Ulster Planters, assimilated to some degree into Irish society, many claiming to be "more Irish than the Irish themselves". But, underneath, there was genuine talent.". legend sometimes hides truth. The three older ones have blue eyes and my younger sister my brother have green eyes. We are black Irish. I suppose every country or culture has that element, but those Irish, boy, watch out. It speaks of a bloody conflict between the Fir Bolg (belly men, stout, dark haired and dark skinned) who were the original inhabitants of the land and the Tuatha De Danaan (fair skinned, thin and tall people from Europe). I am part irish i am also half italian but I do have black Irish features. You don't talk much about English faces, Polish faces, Korean faces DNA doesn't lie! Eileen, Shaun and the popular Kelly, as in Kelly Nguyen. The ultimate travesty was once known as the stage Irishman. Black hair can be found in almost every European people, so these specific features are not exclusive to the Irish in Europe. The 'Great Famine' in Ireland caused millions to emigrate or starve, with the British government failing to do enough to help. The Plantation of Ulster in the seventeenth century saw the arrival of English and Scottish colonists in Ulster after the Flight of the Earls. Can you tell ethnicity by facial features? Another possibility is that poor immigrants from Ireland during the Great Famine of the late 1840s were called this term in their new country. That said, most groups that have a relatively high incidence of redheads are groups with mostly dark hair (brown and black). my mama always told me that the black irish (people from ireland, or people with irish ancestry, who had dark hair, dark eyes, and often darker skin as well) were the result of dna passed down by the roman soldiers who invaded the british isles. Everyone thinks they are mainly red heads, which isn't true. I am dabbling in genealogy and was a bit perplexed about a recent lineage discovery from the census. out, the difference being that the Irish are still proud of being tough i have brown hair and green eyes with olive skin. children arranged by height, like organ pipes, and the mother holding a Answer (1 of 20): I am Irish. My Mom, one sister, and one brother are all dark skinned, with dark hair, light green/hazel eyes, out of a family of 8 children. Consenting to these technologies will allow us to process data such as browsing behavior or unique IDs on this site. Derogatory names for immigrant groups are legion and in the case of those who left Ireland include "Shanty Irish" and almost certainly "Black Irish." And I should know because our family is Black Irish. and renounce friendships. I've never found it to be true.". In the 1800s, many people believed that Irish people who had dark complexions were somehow related to Africans. Black Irish originated with the founding population genetics of the British Isles immediately following the last ice age. My own "Anglo-Irish" (a term I learned from an American whom I described my upbringing to) heritage keeps me out of trouble. It's a natural expression of the human genetic gene pool, even in Ireland, and it's racist to say otherwise. It appears in Scotland from the number of Picts (Scots) who moved to Ireland before the roman conquest. One side regarding the other as wicked and vice versa. The face shape, eye color, complexion, etc., depending on their genetics and region. More recently, they have found that the Irish and British are more related to Belgians, Dutch and Northern French (Brittany). Black Irish is a term synonymous with a dark-haired phenotype exhibited by certain individuals native to or descended from Ireland. I ran into a lady once who said it makes her so mad to hear the term "Irish American". It's possible that the Viking invasion before the 10th century, as well as the 16th century event of the Spanish landing on the Island, resulted in the Dark Irish. Who knows and who cares? Scientists have known for many decades that there is little correlation between "race," used in its popular sense, and actual physical variations in the human species. It is more leaning towards the olive color. Additionally, some myths point out theIrish travellersseparated from the settled community 2000 years ago. Black Irish might be a bad thing to some people, but I haven't met a single one who wasn't incredibly good looking. anon9141 sounds like a mixture similar to the Melungeons. You see the horrible blend of I have dark brown hair, hazel eyes, pale skin and freckles. A handful of Spanish sailors did wash up on the shores of Scotland and Ireland in 1588. It upsets some people at first, but then they always get to know me as the person deeper than my skin. However I'm short, fair hair, pale skin, blue eyes and freckles. They are white Irish people with very very dark brown eyes, dark hair. Brooklyn 1953, go figure! I have always heard "Black Irish" meant dark hair, light skin and light eyes. Gerry Adams, head of the IRA's political wing, Sinn Fein, has been the movie "the secret of roan inish" gives a mythical story behind the black irish..that they came from seals..it's interesting anyway. Brian Boru, Rory O'Connor: At various times Ireland has been divided In 1588, the Spanish King Felipe II attempted to attack the Protestant heretics of England in a bid to restore Catholicism and also as a gesture of solidarity with the oppressed Irish Catholics. So maybe well my last name is scottish, and me, my brother, and dad all have dark brown hair, and either dark hazel/dark brown eyes, which is also stated in my family crest history. My grandmothers last name is Haley, another old and not very common Irish last name. Ireland is like America: a melting pot of several nationalities mixing with the current population to create new genetics, new language and new culture. If you say it to the wrong person they may take it as a nasty racial slur. It could also be a German ancestry thing. People on the west coast of Ireland are almost genetically identical to people in the Basque region. Who were the black Irish? that the Irish are "restless yet indolent, shrewd and indiscreet, 36,629 2,266 2,589. I am Irish, so who gives a crap? me too. Bombings and shootings, mortarings and kneecappings while In Southern Ireland, some people, referred to as "Black Irish", are noted for their strikingly dark features, as opposed to the fair-skinned, light-haired north. Heh. And to seal it off, for 800 years the English had their way with Hibernia. Early black and white (Irish) slaves in America, Barbados, Montserrat and other colonies mixed sexually and culturally. My dad's family is originally from northern Ireland, and he has the typical red hair, freckles, and pale skin. . I agree with te Scythian theory of it's origins(Black Irish) and have always noted the similarity with some peoples from what was souther states in Russia/caspian sea regions, in as much as i would go to talk to them thinking they were my people/ somehow family. Of course, the Irish, just like all people, can come in different hair colors and eye colors. @118491 I think you're correct in saying that it must have been because they settled in the Five Points district, NYC. With that all said, I didn't get the impression anyone in this string of comments disagrees. . Most people in Europe even Germans have 2 percent DNA that is black. Irishman as "Thirty pounds of face and 40 pounds of liver.". We are English on my father's side and Irish on my mother's side. Scientists have concluded that the Celts did not invade Ireland en masse, nor did they replace an earlier group. These stories persist in the midwest and some of the Indian communities - my mother's family, too. "There are a lot of memories of a rural Ireland and a lost time originally father told me some years ago that his father told him that we were descended from a Spaniard who came off a ship in Bantry bay. The Viking Irish have the same history: an infusion of tall red and blonds along the east coast, Wexford, Waterford, and Dublin. Irish people come from near Armenia. He sent the Sons of Mil to conquer England but their fleet was wrecked in a great sea storm. the scoundrel father. Quiet Man" on TV on St. Patrick's Day the way "It's a Wonderful Life" is Myths point out that they were exiled from India into Europe after an Afghani King invaded northern India in the 15th Century. seemed a cover, a veneer like the leather stretched around a blackjack. Irish Catholics lost all their natural human rights, and were considered inferior in society like people of African descent were once considered in the U.S., etc. I'm not saying its not a racial thing, but my family is white and from Ireland, and yet both sides of my family moved to get away from the problems going on at the time in Ireland. "Black Irish" sometimes refers to Black people who are also citizens of Ireland, but it is also a colloquial term that refers to caucasian people of Irish ancestry who have black hairtheir eyelashes and body hair may also be noticeably black as well. Also, I was told that we were travelers and all I know is I have black hair and green eyes and I love moving around. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Does this make them any less Irish? It is prevalent in Mediterranean areas. Anyway all of my cousins have dark brown eyes, dark hair, pale skin tone, and short. Study your history, ancient or otherwise, morons. Peter O'Toole, Jack Dempsey, Helen Hayes, Jack Nicholson, Spencer Tracy My Daddy always said the Ryans were Black Irish, and if you look at them, you can easily see why. There can be dark, blond and red haired people in the one family. My grandmother explained that we have our great great grandmother to thank as she was an irish gypsy and they all carried these features. Teddy Kennedy tells The Iberian Peninsula already had different ethnic subgroups of people living on it, including people from the Eastern Mediterranean. My dads last name is Baker, because way back when my family were bakers, his family lived in Ireland and Scotland and moved to the U.S. complexity and hooded eyes whose lids seem to cross the pupils on a slow In Ireland, 1847 was called Black '47 because thousands of people died from famine and disease, and people who emigrated from Ireland to escape these conditions might have been referred to as Black Irish. The black race has the best nose because they have a lot of narrowness in the nostrils which allows them to breathe better. And though the majority have the blue genes as a dominate gene, we all still carry the brown eyed gene. My family has people of all hair and eye colors. It depends on my mood. I have always thought that I my cousin and my aunt look so different. WATCH: Paul Mescals first TV appearance saw him accidentally eat 15 sausages! a romance of revenge and the revolution that ended for most Irishmen in he takes a drink now and then. What is their Irishness? Similar, yet so very different. It is possible that the arrival of large numbers of Irish after the famine into America, Canada, Australia, and beyond resulted in their being labeled as "black" in that they escaped from this new kind of black death. That is what that is. Ireland mesmerized by rare Northern Lights display. Ireland has been Invaded on more than three occasions, most notably by the Celtics in 500AD, Vikings in 797AD, and the Normans in 1197AD. or black and is used to describe someone by the color of their hair as in Roisin Dubh . A face resembling a happy expression, with upturned eyebrows and upward curving mouth, is likely to be seen as trustworthy while one resembling an angry expression, with downturned eyebrows, is. Caroline Keating, an expert in non-verbal communication at Colgate University in New York, told BBC Future, "The big eyes, the long lashes, the arched brows, the plump lips, the small chins, the . Scottish men are taller than the Irish, often larger then the rest of the UK, (England has more all-sorts, big and small, and you see funny funny lookin folk down . He is vain, a For all of you who posted your family was referred to as being black Irish, look what they did for a living. Do you see where I'm getting at, where the Irish became "the black irish"? Of the regions in Spain that I tested high, Basque was the highest. This is a completely incorrect definition for the term for Black Irish. I think there is truth to the Irish/Spanish connection like my parents spoke of. Like a lot of native Irish, he seemed less Irish than the American Mental illness can be caused by a genetic defect that can be seen through brain imaging (MRI), the use of certain substances, certain vitamin deficiencies, and a traumatic experience of some kind (everyone reacts to trauma differently. Americans.". the Subscribe to our newsletter and learn something new every day. The definition of black Irish is used to describe Irish people with dark hair and dark eyes thought to be . Can I just refer some of you to the great work by Stephen Oppenheimer to put the Irish genetic ancestry debate here to bed. the extreme poverty that's like extreme old age -- it makes whoever factious broils (too often, alas, the fruits of intemperance) in which I do not agree that the term "Black Irish" was used to describe people with darker features. My mother is black Irish mainly and a bit of English. is that a famine or a plague? color James Joyce described as "oakpale." My grandparents and my parents said it was a common slur to identify the lower class from the upper class. They tended to avoid the census takers, but when confronted, rather than being shipped off to Indian Territory (Oklahoma, at the time), they claimed to be "Black Irish.". one, and slanting eyes. The oldest continent is Africa and everyone -- everyone is from there! Irish in the room with their shamrock pins, members of the Ancient Order . Life and Luxury (author) from South Beach, FL on January 09, 2018: Alexander James Guckenberger from Maryland, United States of America on January 08, 2018: Apparently "Black Irish" also means "good lookin'". My maternal grandmother told me as a small child, that her family was authorized to wear both Kennedy and Stuart Tartans. Irish people are of all colors. my father is tanned all year round, that guy gets a tan in the winter, me though, i am not as dark as my father, but when i am in the sun i get an instant tan. There are a number of different claims as to the origin of the term, none of which are possible to entirely prove or disprove. Plate 12. In 1963 William Shannon wrote in "The American Irish" of novelist green beer, green neckties, green bagels, green leprechaun hats, green But enough of that, here's what I suggest. So, heritage before race! drinking, shuffling, snuffling Irish in ads and movies. I'm glad a guy in a similar topic showed me this post. We often get an image of grizzled warriors when we see Vikings on TV, but analysis of skeletal remains shows that the Norse had more gender-neutral facial features than Scandinavians today, meaning males and females had more similar characteristics (Danish National Museum). him suggested that through an act of will he may have given up watching Stubborn, a born fighter, violent, physical, passionate. I don't have any papers to prove what the black Irish are. . September 30, 2022by Editorial Team There is no one answer to this question as everyone has their own unique facial features. Is it the expression on the face? My mother has black hair black brown eyes. If the Spanish Armada story is an unlikely answer, then perhaps we should consider the hundreds of years of "trade" with Spain in Irish ports. baby -- you can almost smell the boiled food and the candles. The migrants became 'Gaelicized' and formed septs (a kind of clan) along Gaelic lines. But, my grandparents do not really talk about it, also I really do not know who my real father is. My mother's father was of Black Welsh and Black Irish stock. I come from a hardworking Irish family, throughout history poor, and working for a living. I don't appreciate your tone either. William Shannon -- a friend of the Kennedys who was ambassador to There are a number of different claims as to the origin of the term Black Irish, none of which are possible to entirely prove or disprove. As a child I looked Indian in the summer. Some Irish have dark hair. I'm Secondary Certified in History among other things too. Joffre Meyer from Tyler, TX on January 10, 2020: Mom said we were Black Irish; however, that could mean really Black in our case. -Reddish to brownish hair (sometimes black) -Chubby round face -Generally, but not always, overweight Toby Keith and Larry The Cable Guy share these traits. The hair and eye color thing is a laughable as someone who lives in Ireland! One sister has olive skin and green eyes. John O'Hara: "Hard-drinking, quick to take offense, carrying a large I tend to think that there is an ancient dark Pictish strain in this. It also gave us the Catholic based Voodoo religions. More so in the old days, I guess, but still I think it will always be a cultural trademark, along with a very finely tuned lyrical and musical sense. O'Hara's face was of the Map of Ireland variety. James D. I have always been told that I was Black Irish, and I just looked it up today to see what it meant. It has never been proven. An Alpine from the Black Forest, Baden. an expression of diabolical archness written all over it." The eyes are often a piercing blue with clear irises. Along the way they mixed with black blood. What Do Irish People Look Like? are full of tweed-capped schemers with crooked grins, and wisdom [deleted] 8 yr. ago. we are short, but my brothers and me look like indians after my mom's side. for the sort of violence he's trying to quell -- the romance of destiny, Odd -- there are 58 million Americans who claimed German ancestry And yes, this family considered themselves to be "Black Irish", from the time of the wrecks of the Spanish Armada. . They turned light later. Long chin, dark brown hair, 6 tall 170lbs, slender athletic build, quite strong for my size. i'm irish descent living in Scotland, my fathers side & me have the same features, Black hair, blue eyes, high cheek bones & the same size teeth. People look at me and see me as white. Copyright 2023 My Real Ireland | By Cian Murphy Digital - SEO Agency Dublin | Privacy Policy. You look at pictures of the Irish during the Great Famine's potato Immigrant Irish are sometimes startled by St. Patrick's Day Historians have concluded that these group of invaders often Intermarried with the local Irish population and formed new groups. Ah, the perversity of it all. Where this coloring may originate is an interesting question. They moved to America for a better life, and were still called black Irish. Our entire lineage that has made its way down to this day is dark hair, and green eyes. My grandfather has always been described as Black Irish with thick, black wavy hair, dark eyes and skin. from Brooks Brothers. brother Michael goes to four and five wakes a week. The first brits and celts were the basques as they settled the british isles and ireland. Blonde hair, on the other hand, took much longer to develop, starting gradually with hair colors only slightly lighter than in preceding generations. History has been changed or someone is lying. * Originally published 2013. the playboy, yet at the playboy he incessantly mocks. From what I know from my grandfather, the Dark Irish are the original Irish the Picts, dark haired, eyed and small, who came from the Mediterranean after the Ice Age, and through successive invasions of other peoples, they were superseded by other peoples and the name became derogatory, to mean inferior. Given that Celtic lanuages have as much in common with Semitic languages as with IndoEuropean languages, it is no great stretch to imagine an ancestral group with general coloring in line with Jews and Arabs. The interpretations of the findings of DNA are just that 'interpretations' very contentious and very misleading. I met a lady once who had lived in Wales and at first she said, "you look Latino," then she had another look and said i look just like the "Kale" -- Welsh gypsies. Does this finally help explain the dark Irish phenomenon? My family is full Irish on both sides with a small amount of French on my mother's side. thoughtlessly generous, quick to resent and forgive offenses, to form Most all my family is still in Boyle and that is what it is. Scots are the reverse. Psychosis is rarely permanent. Donahue, Cardinal Spellman, Jimmy Cagney, Joe McCarthy, Jimmy Breslin, But they look like a great people to me. By the way, I'm from the Pollock line. "Irish Americans are no more Irish than black Americans are Africans. The motive is to discredit the Irish accomplishments, by placing them as subhuman, which in modern times is demeaning to people of color, and to the Irish themselves. A recent RTE program revealed that genetic records show that the *true* Irish Gaels are indeed dark curly haired with complexion varying from season to season. Joffre Meyer from Tyler, TX on February 27, 2020: Thank you, Life and Luxury of South Beach, Florida! Nothing to do with skin color or DNA in that story. New culture, new names. So where you lot get the hair and eye thing from, i dont know --but its not true. The Moors were there. no i've never heard of black'47. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. In addition to her work as a freelance writer for PublicPeople, Diane is the executive editor of However, there are Irish persons around the world that will have a dark complexion. i am anon24687. Their descendants of today may be the BlackIrish according to some myths. The last names were traditional Irish names(fairly common). Also, Spaniards are white, as are the French, the Italians, the Portuguese etc. So much for a superior legacy when you got most of your knowledge from other people, but claim it to be yours. Well, I am going to throw a kink into this discussion. Look at people like Gabriel Byrne. Beyond that, there is no reason to believe they would be significantly darker than your average Scotsman or Irishman. "Black Irish" refers to to moodiness of some Irish. They are often medium to tall in height, and finely boned, almost gracile. Winking, Bound by their common resentment towards the British masters, the two peoples intermarried and produced an offspring of mulattos with strong ties to Ireland. . I am 100 percent Irish American with possibly 1/8 Belfast Orangewoman blood. . Scots-Irish / Scotch-Irish Americans . classifying this subgroup with the term "black Irish" made them instantly distinguishable. The most likely reason is that people that had darker coloring had Native American or African blood and wanted to pass as white. This is because of the widespread perception that BlackIrish was not initially a part of the Irish people. And please, someone help in putting an end to ethnic cleansing among gangs in the United States! As are the welsh. Which, if you think about all these factors working together, would result in the dark Irish. The R1b in these areas are a different subclade to the Basque proving they are not closely related. what's going to happen next, because it's all happened to them before. The singer Mariah Carey, announcing her new liquor brand last month, said it was called Black Irish in a nod to her father, who was Black, and her mother's Irish heritage. I myself am of Irish descent with darker features and was interested in the term black Irish. The Irish temperament is world-famous. My wife is Black Irish I believe. The use of chariots, unique to the British isles(outside of Egypt) and pre-dating the Roman empire who copied their use, not from the Egyptians but the Britons. and they have children born here, though they are Americans, aren't they still Chinese, Japanese, Africans etc. slow-witted Saxon, the most outrageous is the palming off on him of the Their hair was curly/wavy instead of straight and lank. 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