In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. FLOTHE: Where did you go when you did it in the car? Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. FLOTHE: How did you know that? Cindy Paulson was Neighborhood All-Star on July 14. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. FLOTHE: Do you feel that he was going to hurt you? And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. Your email address will not be published. Hansens Weapon Cache (courtesy Alaska State Troopers; found in the attic of Hansens residence; note the handgun at center left), Your email address will not be published. FLOTHE: I have its kind of a picture book with different types of guns in it, OK. Would you take a look through that picture book and see if you see a gun that might be similar to the one that this man had? However, she was never identified and Hansen died last month aged 75, while serving a 461-year sentence in Alaska. FLOTHE: Number five. CINDY: Um hmm. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/. On June 13, 1983, Cindy Paulson was kidnapped and raped, her life threatened by Robert Hansen. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. Handle was brown. He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. The security guard at that time CINDY: Uh huh For only $3 you can help this site stay up and running! He seemed really like a pretty good guy. With a cut in the back. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? Glenn Flothe and his wife, Cheryl, after her successful kidney transplant in 2007 FLOTHE: On the inside of your left wrist. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Thats why he did it. She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. And he had called me and I slept through it. FLOTHE: Was there anybody with him on Friday? And do what he pleased with her. Investigators believe that before killing his victims, Robert would often take them to his cabin in the wilderness in his private jet. Top nutrition scientist says you should drink as many varieties as possible UK's electric car revolution stalls: Britain falling behind US and Europe in race to become an EV Charles evicting Harry and Meghan is the act of a King putting his country first: REBECCA ENGLISH reveals A royal princess at Eton? It had never crossed her mind. Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? CINDY: Uh huh. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. CINDY: Yep. CINDY: No. How was the directing process with Scott Walker? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. If you do exactly what I tell you and don't give me any problem whatsoever, there's going to be no -- you won't get hurt in any way, shape or form," Hansen told troopers, according to news accounts at the time. CINDY: Yeah, it had a really long barrel. But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. As soon as he was of age Robert joined the Army reserves and moved to another town where he found himself a wife, but he was still treated badly. I need a cheap laptop, microphones, etc. Just him by himself. FLOTHE: Friday morning. I said I could meet him at ten or else at eleven. FLOTHE: Do you remember how he was dressed on Sunday? Your email address will not be published. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. *EDIT * Cindy did not escape from the plane, she hopped out of his car. FLOTHE: Did you give him your phone number or did he write it down on something? Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. I guess Im superstitious, so I dont like talking about things until they happen, but there are a few things in the works. Hes got like frog warts on his face. Were the lights on or off? Her circumstances were different and not ideal for most, but that was just her current state. CINDY: You know, I didnt feel nothing, cause I knew I wasnt gonna live. CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. FLOTHE: Did he give you change? On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. Normally, people try avoiding that. The FBI had been spot on about everything. John Paulson. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. And it had a long barrel (turning of pages) like Figure 4 or (pause) Figure 2. FLOTHE: Oh and you saw a sign that said Dead End? He liked to take these women home with him, and once a victim had entered this killers lair she was pretty much doomed; he would take her down to the basement, often to a secret soundproof room where he already had chains rigged up. Growing up Robert was scrawny, he had this terrible stutter, and a super bad case of acne; all of this made him the target of bullies everywhere. He was 75 years old. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and there's no telling how much longer he would've lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of '83. Being in an office meant that team building happened naturally, and to re-create that connection virtually, takes a lot of To be authentic, inclusion needs action behind it. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. We just want her to be identified.'. CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. 10,285 views Aug 26, 2013 In an up close interview, former Disney sweetheart Vanessa Hudgens shares her admiration towards serial killer Robert Hansen's surviving victim Cindy Paulson .more. After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. Interview with Cindy Morgan DontHateTheGeek 2.2K views 10 years ago Whiplash Final Scene - Andrew Neyman's Performance Awais Irfan 14M views 7 years ago Ned Lightner 52K views 9 years ago The. But Cindy could feel California clients and BCs culture were becoming more open and it felt like the right time to be fully herself at work. Anchorage's jail is one of the state's only correctional facilities with a medical unit. CINDY: No. You know, I was supposed to meet him. I can tell you (inaudible) I can describe the plane to you. To the left is the basement. I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. CINDY: Uh huh. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. Rothschild recounted watching Hansen transform into "the monster he was" the day prosecutors sat down with Hansen and laid out the evidence against him. And so, I was guided along very beautifully by them. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. The woman tried to escape and he pulled out a gun, he said. They searched his plane, home and car and found he had some items, including jewelry, that had belonged to the women. This link contains non-graphic crime scene photos from Robert Hansen, it is mostly of the grave sites. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. She was a prostitute who was kidnapped and raped before managing to escape, but when she went to the police, Hansen evaded arrest because the lead investigator didn't . Cause that was the smallest he had. CINDY: Yes, directly. No matter what her husband did, even after hed been arrested and jailed for rape, she remained by her husbands side. FLOTHE: What do you mean by a cut in the back? First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. to start my podcast and YouTube channel. FLOTHE: If you can move your hand away from your face a little bit I want to make sure we get it on the tape recorder, OK? Robert chased after his intended victim, but it was no use. Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. I know I have support from leadership and throughout, and thats a great feeling., As the executive sponsor of BCs employee network group for women, Cindy worked to amplify the Balance and Belonging culture and framework internally and externally across an industry with historical nature of the industry being male dominated. She was hysterical, half-clothed, and had an unbelievable story of survival to tell. We all have the same needs. And then up here on my hand, right in the middle. CINDY: I could say the time but it may not be the correct one. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansens house on Old Harbor Road. Cindy coughs.) FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? In the early morning of June 13th 1983, (months before the other bodies were found) Cindy Paulson appeared on the side of the road. With Patreon you will receive exclusive posts and more, Morbid N' Macabre - 2023. Robert had been in the habit of keeping a souvenir from most of his hunting sessions, whether it be wild game or women. Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on CINDY: Its blue with a big ol picture window and the whole house is If you drive down Old Harbor Road, the windows on the right side and the garage is to the left. And then we hear about the same meet up from Cindy Paulsons perspective, documented in her trooper interview with Sgt. CINDY: I think he gave me a five. The stuffed heads of the animals which hed killed lined his walls, and damming items such as unique jewelry pieces which could easily be linked back to many of the missing women were found within the home as well. (laughs) Its a quick little cameo. CINDY: Looked kinda like this, with a really long barrel. FLOTHE: Really dark color. FLOTHE: Would you recognize this metal seat if you saw it again, do you think? The many other women who fell into Hansen's grasp were flown into the alaskan wilderness, near the Knik River, where Hansen had a cabin. The work is being paid for by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and a former forensic anthropologist for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation is working for the center on the case. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. I didnt know, there was, uh I I I couldnt see her that night cause it was during the week and Im running my bakery and I start there at 1:00 in the morning and, uh, she give me a phone number there for her at one of the motels. Have you heard anything about a sequel to Journey 2 The Mysterious Island? CINDY: Um hmm. So, that was nice. "We nabbed him before he could do any damage to anyone.". (pause) She would, of course, run like hell for her life, but the killer would track her down. [Installment Three]. CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. It was a red scar All rights reserved. CINDY: Sunday. There are so many different genres out there to do, so many different characters to play, so many different amazing actors and directors to work with. CINDY: And then after I looked I recognized him. Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. The avid hunter would strip his victim naked (often in subzero temperatures) and simply set her free. That seemed to be a common enough thing to do, plenty of troubled Americans had moved to Alaska to start a new life, and this worked out splendidly for Robert! (inaudible) The horns that were up there, the big ol antler horns, theyre called. Like a little Datsun station wagon. FLOTHE: When you got into the car, and you were giving him a head job, is that when he pulled out the gun? What Cindy Paulson escaped is mind-numbing. But then, after that, I could not get over the fact of how amazing this character was and how I had to be a part of it. You can listen to the podcast of this interview here. Required fields are marked *. This looks black but its actually blue. As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. Kids can be so cruel; while the boys his own age poked fun of and beat on him, the girls all laughed about how ugly he was. CINDY: Tons His health failing, Hansen was moved to the Anchorage Correctional Complex on May 11. Glenn took what the FBI had said along with Cindys account of what Robert had done to her, and he obtained a search warrant for his suspects dwelling. CINDY (cont. She Gets rescued By an patrol Officer. CINDY: Um hmm. Why dont we start then with what will be freshest in mind, which is the the cases that are pending now and from what happened in June of last year. And that he had to work and he couldnt do it then. While there does not seem to be a singular traumatic event in Roberts childhood which we can pinpoint, it appears that hed had a really difficult time in most aspects of his life as a kid and even as an adult he just couldnt (or wouldnt) let it go. Brown and Caldwell's former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. CINDY: Regular Just working boots. You know, I was supposed to meet him. She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. But he had brown socks on. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. That opens the door to me being accessible and fully embraced and thats powerful. When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! She described the kidnapper and his plane to authorities, but when police questioned him, he had an alibi and a gentle demeanor, so they let him go. Your email address will not be published. FLOTHE: How did he get in? FLOTHE: And what color were his boots? One night she picked up a small, skinny client with a pock-marked face who wore glasses and spoke with a stutter. So its early in the morning Im not correct on the times, OK? FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? Hansens House, Old Harbor Road (copyright Leland E. Hale). CINDY: Uh huh. Hudgens: I wanted her to be a normal teenage girl. (inaudible) I wish we could say for sure that this was Roberts final victim, but its thought that there were probably more. Was it fun watching them go toe to toe? All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and theres no telling how much longer he wouldve lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of 83. 17-year-old Cindy Paulson ran away from Hansen in 1983 as he was trying to load her into his plane and "take her out to his cabin," presumably a euphemism for the vacant Alaskan wilderness where he gunned down his victims. I wanted everyone to see that were all the same. It turned into a cat and mouse chase. 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