Did you have a good day today? The army sergeant general directed that we establish the pain management task force to take a look at alternatives to narcotics. Seventy-three seconds into the 28 January 1986 . Fire Escape. (END VIDEO CLIP) GUPTA: And Yvonne I the patient in that video. It's the best treatment and it saves lives, period. People go in and out of health plans. It goes back to Teddy Roosevelt. And the actual costs for care here is among the lowest in the country. It used to be me. But he can have anywhere between five and 10 milligrams of morphine. CHO: Oh, my God. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: One company has figured out how to lower healthcare costs by more than 40 percent. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) WEIL: The American health care system, it's generating rivers of money that are flowing into very few pockets. And when we work at that level, we find people are much more likely to make these sustainable changes and the patient learns how to empower themselves and to transform their lives. Do you understand? If someone has compression of one of their lungs, they might need a chest tube like this, $1100. I came to Walter Reed. Anybody else would laugh, you know? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have no health insurance. My very best friend from war, he was on narcotics. We want more procedures. ROSS: OK, what was it, Mr. Linton, that finally made you say, okay, that's it. The US healthcare system has to be overhauled to put the patient's needs above the doctors and the insurers. But with regard to prevention, preventing disease, does that save us money? Firefighters said they received about 12 calls . Only thing we can do is separate them out, because there's no way for us to tell which are which. It only reduces symptoms. Insurance companies have always been able to regulate the rates they charge. And I think we're in a great deal of trouble because of that. The present healthcare system doesn't work. And so, that's clearly one of the issues. I have an acutely suicidal patient in my office that I need help with. You also want to engage the billing representatives and the financial representatives of the hospital in that discussion and have them understand, I need an explanation of these charges. The next 30 minutes are all about you, the patient, whether you're insured or not insured, it matters. WARD: For a long period of time I was hiding. Now we're kind of dealing with the consequences. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) DR. ERIN MARTIN, PRIMARY CARE: After I'd left La Clinica, I joined this new practice. The film is about finding a way out. And Doctor Jeff Cain. People come in and you try and fix one thing and they come back for the same thing over and over and over. Who's next? They may be a member of a health plan for a year and maybe no longer. That's almost as much as the rest of the world combined. TUCKSON: Primary care doctors are being cared more. It is an IV like this, about $280 just for the IV bag. Expand the Transcripts and captions section if closed, then select Upload. I decided out of curiosity to go check this out. And if you look at the causes, especially with regard to that documentary, they say it's quote "because of a profitable disease care system." You didn't have to be a statistician or in the words of my old friend Bob Dylan, you don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. I started getting sick in my 30s. WENDELL POTTER, FORMER HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS, CIGNA: There's the assumption that people who run government, elected officials, members of Congress, but it's not true in many cases. American healthcare costs are rising so rapidly that they could reach $4.2 trillion annually, roughly 20% of our gross domestic product, within ten years. But, that's not the whole story. I'm Dr. Sanjay Gupta. And finally, keep in mind that what is charged and what is ultimately paid are two different numbers. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At the executive level, what's most important is hitting Wall Street's expectations, and they have to. And every year they have to turn people away. Sometimes they are related to lifestyle habits. I'm one of the busiest surgeons in the country, however, I don't believe every men with prostate cancer needs immediate treatment. I mean -- but you have to have the time to educate your patient. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) DR. PAMELA ROSS, EMERGENCY MEDICINE, UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA: Hello, Dr. Ross. MARTIN: Can you feel this? GUPTA: For everybody here. So now, "ESCAPE FIRE: THE FIGHT TO RESCUE AMERICAN HEALTHCARE." GUPTA: But, why are these causing hospitals so expensive? DR. JEFFREY MARSHALL, PRESIDENT, FOR INTERVENTIONAL AND GEOGRAPHY IN INTERVENTION: I don't believe so. We just have to do it differently. CARNES: Release the breath in a smooth, even stream out. No soldier should have to go through this. Don't need you, don't need you. 'Deinfluencing' is now a thing. If you select our human service, your transcript will be ready within 24 hours. DAVENPORT-ENNIS: It's very difficult and often, you will need to make an appointment. That's the only reason we're making the change. DEAN MICHAEL ORNISH, PREVENTIVE MEDICINE RESEARCH INSTITUTE: When you're doing something that has never been done before, it's not universally accepted, to say the least. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel different. BURD: All we did was facilitate smart choices for people and develop this culture of health and fitness. The film examines the powerful forces trying to . UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He really did. MARTIN: Thyroid is a little bit big. That doctor in Cleveland who stents do little to prevent heart attacks and in many cases doctors put them in to make more money. Here's a couple simple tips. It would be a very different system that probably would be less high-tech and more high touch. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) SHANNON BROWNLEE, MEDICAL JOURNALIST: Dark matter is a discovery by astronomers that there is a huge amount of the universe that we can't see. At a time when the medical system is so badly broken. JOE BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT: Good morning, folks, how are you? UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The Safeway supermarket chain looked for a way to rein in spiraling premiums and hit in what seems to be a win-win solution. OK. Bend down. If you ask the manufacturers a device like this, why so much money? Published Feb 22, 2001. I had difficulty sleeping at night. And what I saw actually made me physically ill. As I looked at trial after trial, there were more heart attacks in the Avandia group. It's completely changed food. What's wrong with medical education is that it simply doesn't address whole subject areas that are absolutely essential to understanding human beings, health, illness, and treatment. Your company becomes more competitive. It's nice to know that I've got a long time to spend with my family and I'm going to get to see my son grow older and go to college and all that fun stuff. And then, being paid, on top of that, a bonus if they can demonstrate, if they have improve the quality of care and have also may cause saving. We don't have a healthcare system in this country. YATES: I've chose to get off all narcotics, all medicine, everything. MARSHALL: Me, personally, I'm on a salary. So, a hospital like the one you just saw there. We're on track for that on Tuesday. And I think that's a good place to start. We need to change the nature of medicine. Brownlee, Shannon, commentator. From a patient perspective, from a physician perspective, you want to make sure obviously, that people are being educated correctly. ESCAPE FIRE: The Fight to Rescue American Healthcare tackles one of the most pressing issues of our time: how can we save our badly broken healthcare system? There is no reason that exact approach can't be applied across the board to drugs, to other diagnostic tests. DR. ERIN MARTIN, PRIMARY CARE: I got to go to work. It doesn't reward them for keeping their patients healthy. Right? I lost a lot of good men. MARTIN: I think what the American people need is, they need good health care. BROWNLEE: We have a disease care system, and we have a very profitable disease care system. GUPTA: Erin, what did you think about that particular theme? These lifestyle changes cannot only work as well as drugs and surgery, but often even better at a fraction of the cost and the only side effects are good ones. So, if you have a patient comes in, you get paid a certain amount because you do a stent. But we're going to talk to them about it still, you know? I was 35 at the time and was scheduled for open-heart surgery. And the problem is, some of those procedures will lead to bad outcomes. We have some challenges with access and affordability. A lot of unnecessary stents? The power lies with corporations and corporate interests and the lobbyists that they buy. NISSEN: We do have a problem in America, and that is we have misaligned incentives. And water, they are saying, I'm going to have to give up to get there. So, we decided to give you a look at a typical operating room bill and that breaks down. Thank you all. So, you want to take a look at that and find out what it is. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) DR. DON BERWICK, HEAD OF MEDICARE/MEDICAID, 2010-2011: If we really can't begin to change, from paying for volume, paying for how much you do, to paying for outcomes, paying for how well you do, how well the patient does, that will change the game, people will start to say, well, now the money is in health and well being and safety and vitality, not in more, more, more, more, more. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What I'm arguing for is not to make things tough on industry, it's to make things safe for patients. Next, click the three-dot menu icon underneath the title of the video. Host virtual events and webinars to increase engagement and generate leads. STEVE BURD, CEO, SAFEWAY: In 2005 we had a billion-dollar health care bill rising at the rate of $100 million a year. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nine months? We have a -- we have a motto in medicine. Look at our results, our life span isn't even in the top 20. ESCAPE FIRE exposes the perverse nature of American healthcare, contrasting the powerful forces opposing change with the compelling stories of pioneering leaders and the patients they seek to help. ROSS: When do you think it would be good to try it? DR. PETER CARROLL, CHAIR, DEPARTMENT OF UROLOGY, UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO: My path crossed with Dean's because we both wanted to bring rigorous clinical trial testing to this hypothesis that lifestyle intervention could have a impact on men with early stage prostate cancer. It doesn't matter how complicated they are, how much time that we spend on them, it's just a number, one, two, three, four, five. If someone had talked to her -- I think someone had really teased out her chest pain and shortness of breath, I think many of her cardiac catheterization and stents would not be necessary. It was a great life. Alvin and the Chipmunks/Transcript. We spend one heck of a lot of money. Hold them accountable and then talk to them, you know, on a weekly basis. Let's see what we got here. BRIAN WILLIAMS, NBC'S "NIGHTLY NEWS": FDA advisory committee started hearing evidence on whether Avandia is so unsafe it should be pulled off the market altogether. You know? Viewers will see this language when they . UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But Mommy, what are you going to do? But it's more than cost. Am I going to be paying more? That's going to be a little bit of a change and a little unfortunate. YATES: I'm a red neck south Louisiana boy, just old Hill Billy, you know? Incentivizing them to be healthy or not charging them as much if they're healthy. And I hope our new generation of health professionals will catalyze this social movement that's necessary and enough people get aroused enough about the situation and see it for what it is and then start some kind of grassroots movement to change the political balance of power. DR. SANJAY GUPTA, HOST: Good evening. GUPTA: You know, one can't help but walk away from the documentary, Doctor , frankly, they are scared of stents. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Now you pick your spot. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How's your pain, sir? It's not whole food as nature produces it. GEN. RICHARD THOMAS, ASSISTANT SURGEON-GENERAL, U.S. ARMY: This is a national problem for us, you know, we're seeing the military just being a microcosm, I think, of the problems society is having. It's And we will say, it is important you request the appointment not only through a telephone call, but if you have an e- mail address, to try to do that. The question was, can we relieve their pain and reduce the amount of medications that they are on so by the time they get back, they are not snowed under on multiple medications. Underrewarded primary care. Going to go look for it. ORNISH: There's very little evidence that these conventional treatments make you live longer, but they cause many men to be impotent or incontinent or both. Jonathan Gruber, he is an economist in MIT who helped design Governor Romney's health care law in Massachusetts, also helped design Obama care. MARSHALL: Yes, sir. I never had a personal doctor, family doctor, nothing, all my life. We are more likely to get a knee replacement or have a cat scanner, have an MRI. All of us live here and work here. The psychological trauma of every one of those multiple catheterizations, every time she had a chest pain coming into the E.R., and unfortunately, there are lots of Yvonnes out there. (END VIDEO CLIP) GUPTA: Time to introduce Dr. Valerie Montgomery Rice, she's Dean at the Morehouse school of medicine. But so what, right? NISSEN: Because of the money that's involved, getting people to do the right thing for the American people has become extremely difficult. Have you -- UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 2008. BURD: I was a business guy and I thought if we could influence behavior of about 200,000-person workforce, we could have a material effect on healthcare costs. GUPTA: Can you actually get a-hold of those people? He overdosed. BROWNLEE: The vast majority of doctors in this country are paid by a fee-for-service system. And that is why, our first priority has to be to equalize that access and then move on. It caused their blockages to become less blocked in their arteries. We say they don't prevent heart attacks, they don't lengthen life. Jonathan, you know, we want better care and lower costs. Are my premiums going to go up? I do it in my clinic all the time. Our automatic transcription software will convert your video to text in just a few minutes (depending on the length of your video). Just sore. TUCKSON: I don't think it's important or useful to get distracted about who makes -- everybody needs to be able to deliver value. As Berwick says in the film, "We're in Mann Gulch. If you talk to the employees around here that have lost 35, 50, 60, 100 pounds, they will tell you without a doubt they have a better quality of life. MARTIN: What I do every day, buddy. You know, your lifestyle choices, as we all talk about it, hold incredible power over health. We're glad to have you home. GUPTA: I think the numbers are surprising to a lot of people, even people who work in hospital. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, I need some help over here. Look. Determine, did you indeed have two MRI's during the course of one week? It's addictive. Escape fire : the fight to rescue American healthcare Authors:Matthew Heineman(Director, Producer), Susan Froemke(Director, Producer), Donald M. Berwick(Commentator), Shannon Brownlee(Commentator), Wayne B. Jonas(Commentator), Steven E. Nissen(Commentator), Andrew Weil, Chad Kelly(Composer), Moby(Composer), Aisle C Productions(Production company) I say, radical? Format: DVD Edition: Widescreen. That prevents tissues from renewing themselves in the body and diseases take hold. Obesity leads to heart disease and strokes and diabetes. And so, I think it points to the violence in our society. ROBERTSON: Conventional wisdom is, over the next two years, we will likely go out of business. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Safeway's healthcare costs have remained flat compared to a 40 percent jump for most other companies. A flower for you. BURD: All right. That also happened in the 1990s. Thanks all of you for joining us. We're talking about a $3 or $4 billion a year drug. We want more specialists. (END VIDEO CLIP) NISSEN: I was doing a Google search, and what I found was a Web site in the United Kingdom where the clinical trials done with Avandia were actually partially disclosed. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The healthcare reform bill that was enacted achieved two of the insurance industry's major objectives. The first description that the play makes about the fire escapes is "The apartment faces an alley and is entered by a fire escape, a structure whose name is a . But you end up being this revolving door. Sit down and look at hospital bills through the perspective of, are any of these services that I don't understand what they are? I take a pharmaceutical drug myself, but if there's one thing that I would love to see you begin to implement in your own practice and teach others about, it's to try to change this mindset that has so completely taken hold in our culture on the part of both doctors and patients that drugs are the only legitimate way to treat disease. The next group of people are people that have tried medical therapy, that are on medical therapy and failing. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are you going to do at work? CARNES: We'll end the practice today with the completing statements. In the United States, it was around $8,000 annually. The check that I get back from the insurance company after that was billed is $40. And those are surprising. Smoke jumpers were parachuted in a team of 15 headed by a foreman named Wag Dodge. It expands the artery to hold it open and allow the blood to flow. These perverse incentives that you described? ORNISH: The limitations of high-tech medicine have never been clearer. The Escape fire Video demonstrates human stories and leaders in the fight to transform Medicare at the level of medicine, the US military, industry, and government. But one evening, I sat straight up in bed with the worst chest pain. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I lost about 120 pounds over the course of three years. You can't have a cafeteria that doesn't have calorie counts on it. What the Dartmouth group discovered is that the patients in the most costly regions where Medicare spent more money on patients, those patients did not have better health outcomes. One of the three men who survived the Montana fire did so through an ingenious solution and a leap of faith by making an escape fire. A heart cath, get another stent. All right, so take a breath. Even when bad things happen, it's not because people have bad intentions, it's that our system is all fouled up. And in some ways, I think of a lot of what's happening in health care is kind of dark matter. GRUBER: Well, basically, Medicare actually - I don't have to tell - Medicare right on demonstration where they did bidding, where Medicare would pay -- would reimburse certain rates for medical devices and they had bidding across different manufacturers to be the low bidder, to brought that sources lower prices by 40 percent. It's here, right in the center of your chest. It's getting rid of the bad thing. If it's a radiologist, they get paid for each CT scan they deliver. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'd be chomping narcotics. ORNISH: I thought, most things in biology go both ways, so if bad things make your telomere shorter, maybe good things will make them longer. YATES: Wow. It goes into the other areas, and it's just not sustainable. 27 cardiac catheterization and well over seven stents. No eastern medicine. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We all know there's things we can do and they make us feel good and we like to do them, but we're going to feel really bad if our doors close. We need a whole new kind of medicine. Our health care system. So in 1994, I started a fellowship for people who had completed medical school to retrain physicians. The way that the system is set up, you can't be effective. And if you look at even devices like -- this is a needle that's used for biopsy. Fifteen years later, you can't walk into your average hospital today and get acupuncture after an operation. About a 30 percent increase in the risk of heart attack and related complications. What would happen? It's an expensive world to live in in terms of getting your voice heard in D.C., but that's the whole function of advocacy. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Take them away from him. (MUSIC & CREDITS) GUPTA: We can't leave the conversation right there. GUPTA: I want to point out something. Half. And there's nothing that people sort of get more antsy about is the idea of people profiting off of other's misery. If you're in the system, do you access of if you are insured, if you are living in a safe neighborhood, your outcomes are great in America. And we're going to be doing CPR on a patient. GUPTA: The children dying before the age of five exceeds any of the other 16 richest countries. BROWNLEE: The really astonishing part about the fact that we spend more is we have worst health outcomes. So tired of it. More tests, more drugs, more time in the hospital, more invasive operations than patients in other parts of the country. If you account for that, we do much better. 5. 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